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Patents don't require working devices.

Patents don't require working devices.

Posted Apr 27, 2011 21:08 UTC (Wed) by ccurtis (guest, #49713)
Parent article: 1+1 (pat. pending) - Mathematics, Software and Free Speech (Groklaw)

I have to admit I stopped short of completing this rather lengthy tome, having made it to this part:

"Where is the requirement that the disclosure in a patent specification has been tested? Where is the requirement that the invention has been implemented? I don't find this in Quinn's explanation. [...]

"I have to ask, is this kind of disclosure sufficient to meet the societal bargain of a grant of temporary monopoly rights in exchange for disclosure? I don't see any requirements that the invention is implemented let alone tested. How could this disclosure be deemed sufficient? We are not even sure there is a working invention."

Part of the trade in expressing a patentable idea is just that -- to release the idea. The reason a feasible idea is sufficient instead of also a working device is so that the patent holder is granted time to either work out the details, or to protect themselves while shopping the idea out to someone they believe can bring the device to market. For evidence of that one only needs to look at the numerous patents for perpetual motion machines that have been granted (see this wikipedia article for examples).

Whether the author is hinging the remainder of the text on this argument, or is arguing that the patent system needs this fundamental level a reform, case law will not help; this action has to come from the legislature. It is likely also to be bound in all sorts of international WIPO and Free Trade style treaties preventing a relaxing of the standard as well.

I would want to argue that in a world where everything is faster - where an idea can cross a continent and be fabricated in less time than a rider on horseback can traverse a state - that there's been a fundamental shift in the time value of the idea versus the potential societal benefit. But to counter this I could point to pharma and the mandatory FDA approval process, where the original time value balance has actually worsened (getting approval versus crossing a continent or ocean). To this end, the extended protection period may be justifiable; however, this argument would simply lead to slowing progress via additional government regulation of software through some now-fictitious "Software Security Board" instead of increasing the rate and the freedom of the information. :-(

All that aside, I wish the author well.


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Patents don't require working devices.

Posted Apr 28, 2011 17:28 UTC (Thu) by jd (guest, #26381) [Link]

Patent offices, at least in other countries, haven't accepted perpetual motion machines (or time travel devices) for some time. It's my understanding that the US no longer grants them either and that part of the justification in so doing is that there is a-priori knowledge on the part of the patent office that a working invention does not exist.

It's also been my understanding that you have to have prototyped at least the key parts of the invention even if you have not prototyped the invention as a whole. There has to be a minimal implementation. Certainly in companies I've worked at in the US where they were actively patenting inventions, that was a requirement the patent lawyer stated had to be fulfilled.

It would seem Groklaw has the same understanding, so if a patent lawyer and a paralegal come to the same conclusion, I can only conclude that that is the legal requirement. Doesn't make it the requirement in practice, merely the requirement as set down by law.

The US patent office, again according to my understanding, does NOT evaluate patents but waits for others to do so on their behalf. If this is correct, there may be many technically illegal patents in the books. If the system relies 100% on challenges, the law merely describes what can be enforced rather than what can be filed.

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