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The Document Foundation: What we strive for
The Document Foundation has put out a brief blog posting, seemingly in reaction to Oracle's announcement about OpenOffice.org. It reiterates the existing plans for LibreOffice and the foundation:
The Document Foundation:
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The Document Foundation: What we strive for Posted Apr 19, 2011 15:23 UTC (Tue) by Hausvib6 (guest, #70606) [Link]
Perhaps they are worried about this "new OpenOffice.org community".
The Document Foundation: What we strive for Posted Apr 19, 2011 17:02 UTC (Tue) by vonbrand (subscriber, #4458) [Link] Why should they? Whatever Oracle comes up with will certainly be stillborn (when it finally fully sees the light of day in some 3 or 4 years). They did have to answer the Oracle announcement somehow, and this very short answer shows how much they really care.
The Document Foundation: What we strive for Posted Apr 20, 2011 1:05 UTC (Wed) by Hausvib6 (guest, #70606) [Link]
I agree.
After thinking for some time while on the way to home. TDF is the real OpenOffice.org community, they have gained independence from Oracle months ago.
What's left of OpenOffice.org in Oracle is just:
Since the centerpiece of an FLOSS project is the community, in this case is TDF which have already shown us that name is just one of the least important part, what Oracle wants to give to "the community" (don't know who) is much less valuable to the public at large. By being a vendor neutral, I don't think there are any merit of forking LibreOffice. Of course anyone with sufficient amount of money can try to do it. I hope more and more FLOSS projects under the evil companies starts their rebellion and become vendor-neutral community.
Congratulations to TDF, their endeavour has shown that an FLOSS project is all about the community and better of being vendor-neutral.
The Document Foundation: What we strive for Posted Apr 20, 2011 1:56 UTC (Wed) by jrn (subscriber, #64214) [Link]
> What's left of OpenOffice.org in Oracle is just:
> * domain name > * trademark
And some knowledgeable developers. It seems best not to forget that (though unless Oracle is planning to work directly with LibreOffice I guess it's not too relevant).
The Document Foundation: What we strive for Posted Apr 20, 2011 12:42 UTC (Wed) by csigler (subscriber, #1224) [Link]
> And some knowledgeable developers.
Until they get laid off. Or Oracle may reassign them in-house.
Mind you, I have no knowledge of the internal structure of the OOo project as it came to them from Sun. If it's a separate group and Oracle dumps OOo entirely, my bet is they'll just be let go as a whole. Then the question is, if their best coding and employment opportunities are in working on OOo, will a F/LOSS company be willing to hire some of these folks based on the value of their ability and experience with OOo? If so, then the obvious project for them to work on is LibreOffice. My 2c.
Clemmitt
The Document Foundation: What we strive for Posted Apr 19, 2011 18:17 UTC (Tue) by mpr22 (subscriber, #60784) [Link] I think s/worried about/contemptuous of/ would get rather closer to the truth.
The Document Foundation: What we strive for Posted Apr 19, 2011 22:29 UTC (Tue) by Ed_L. (guest, #24287) [Link] Not necessarily. The "always open to new members and partners" appears an invitation to cooperation.
The Document Foundation: What we strive for Posted Apr 19, 2011 22:29 UTC (Tue) by rahvin (subscriber, #16953) [Link]
IMO that was a brilliant response to Oracle's announcement. Oracle refused to work with the community until the community beat them soundly. Now they are either trying to sabotage the LibO community or they are simply going to lay off the entire OO.org staff and bury the project.
My guess it's the latter with a smidgen of the former as a payback for the fork. If they want to work with a community and have a community project let them join the Document Foundation and contribute their code and assets to the main project. The OO.org name is best lost to history.
The Document Foundation: What we strive for Posted Apr 20, 2011 3:23 UTC (Wed) by cry_regarder (subscriber, #50545) [Link]
LibreOffice is extremely hard for me to say (even subvocalizing). I am a native American English speaker.
The easiest way I've found to pronounce it is "LiverOffice".
OpenOffice.org, despite the dorky .org at the end is much easier.
For free names, "OfficeLiberty" is very easy to remember and say.
Cry.
The Document Foundation: What we strive for Posted Apr 20, 2011 7:12 UTC (Wed) by paulj (subscriber, #341) [Link]
Try "Lee Bray Office".
The Document Foundation: What we strive for Posted Apr 20, 2011 16:32 UTC (Wed) by cry_regarder (subscriber, #50545) [Link]
That's not easy to say. Sounds like a donkey.
The Document Foundation: What we strive for Posted Apr 20, 2011 16:42 UTC (Wed) by paulj (subscriber, #341) [Link]
Well, it's an approximation, using the closest words I could think that'd be familiar to all en speakers. And the result is likely consistent with many en_US accents. ;) The common current pronunciation would have both syllables as a quicker sound. E.g. "Li" like a shortened "Lee" (but not "lu") and "Bre" ;).
The Document Foundation: What we strive for Posted Apr 20, 2011 18:39 UTC (Wed) by cry_regarder (subscriber, #50545) [Link]
I've got it! Le Bra Awe Feece
The Document Foundation: What we strive for Posted Apr 21, 2011 19:42 UTC (Thu) by Wol (guest, #4433) [Link]
What about those en speakers who actually speak *English*, not American or some other variant?
We have no difficulty with it (nor should those Americans in the south who are exposed to spanish, or cannucks exposed to french).
It's only the Ozzies who should be expected to have trouble.
I'd agree with your shortened "lee", but follow it up with a compact "burr" - the "u" almost dropped. That then flows cleanly into the "Office" afterwards.
Lee bur roff iss.
Cheers,
The Document Foundation: What we strive for Posted Apr 20, 2011 17:56 UTC (Wed) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239) [Link]
Rhymes (roughly) with "Zebra", assuming en_US.
The Document Foundation: What we strive for Posted Apr 20, 2011 7:09 UTC (Wed) by JMB (guest, #74439) [Link]
I agree. It is just the essentials of the newly formed community - really open as in free, willing to work with all people/developers/companies interested in improving this office suite.
That's it. If Oracle wants to contribute, they are welcome. The same for their developers. From my point of view Oracle lost reputation - by the way they are treating communities, users and even custumers. Maybe this is a chance for them to gain reputation back - which should be in their interest. IMHO the new name is better for developers and geeks - as one may have sentiments against the former attitude attached with the project name. On the other hand it may be of value to the large user base to see one community and one name - with advantages for the older one. I would still vote for LibreOffice - it fits the community better which is just the spirit of their statement. If (which is not {yet} reported) they would get the name by Oracle, they may vote for the final name ... as suited for a real community. Good job of those involved in LibreOffice and best wishes for this free project.
The Document Foundation: What we strive for Posted Apr 20, 2011 12:52 UTC (Wed) by csigler (subscriber, #1224) [Link]
> From my point of view Oracle lost reputation
It seems to me that any reputation they lost is of little value to them. They care about their commercial, closed-source, high margin customers. At this point in their life cycle, they see no value, and perhaps a liability, in association with F/LOSS projects.
> On the other hand it may be of value to the large user base
As someone who's paid attention to OOo ever since it was opened up by Sun, I still think of LibreOffice, not as a continuation of OOo after the changes made by Oracle, but as an extension of the Go-OO project which I found addictive. Even before LO was formed, there were multiple projects working on the OOo code base.
Clemmitt
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