Distribution quotes of the week

Personally, I'm stunned. Everywhere you went in Fedora circles — and that would mostly include IRC channels, Beefy Miracle was collectively on the tips of everyone's tongues and a lot of effort went into promoting the new "god" — but it was not to be. I truly thought that some approved candidates were left off the final ballot — Dusty, Talladega and others — to ensure Beefy Miracle's success. The prospect that Fedora Activity Days at events would be called "Meat Ups" now falls by the wayside. There is no joy in Mudville.

Theres an ongoing thread on the Debian mailing lists about making network-manager installed by default on new Debian installations. I won't say much about the thread. Its just a prototype example for Debian project discussions: Discuss everything to death and if its dead discuss a little more. And - very important - always restate the same arguments as often as you can. Or if its not your own argument you restate, restate the arguments of others. Ending with 100 times stated the same argument. Even if its already disproved.