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It's a *fork* of FFmpeg that is becoming libavIt's a *fork* of FFmpeg that is becoming libavPosted Mar 14, 2011 16:26 UTC (Mon) by david.a.wheeler (guest, #72896)Parent article: FFmpeg fork becomes libav At least according to one post, there is an FFmpeg fork, and that fork is named "libav", which is not the same thing as "the group of developers who took over maintainership of the FFmpeg project some months ago". Like all forks, we'll have to see which one manages to carry on long term. I'd love to hear what's really going on here, e.g., who are the sides and why the fork creators believe there needs to be a fork. Presumably it's because of difficulty working together, since the fork's mission statement focused on "each individual's good behavior and intolerance of bad behavior, mutual respect, active and positive reviewing of submissions and other policies and processes targeted at conserving this environment."
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It's a *fork* of FFmpeg that is becoming libav Posted Mar 14, 2011 17:18 UTC (Mon) by jubal (subscriber, #67202) [Link] for a member of the uninformed public (i.e. me) it looks like the people behind the fork failed to secure the ownership of the ffmpeg.org domain before they executed the coup and now have been forced to rename their fork; I really hope that the whole thing is worth the amounts of drama it generates
It's a *fork* of FFmpeg that is becoming libav Posted Mar 14, 2011 17:54 UTC (Mon) by foom (subscriber, #14868) [Link]
Seems kinda like the fork of Hudson to Jenkins that took practically the entire community of developers with it (including the founder, in that case!) leaving behind only Oracle.
It's a *fork* of FFmpeg that is becoming libav Posted Mar 15, 2011 2:20 UTC (Tue) by donbarry (guest, #10485) [Link]
Or the fiasco of the TWiki.org siteholder taking the trademark
and domain ownership bat and beating the developers over the head of it, leading the great bulk of developers to found Foswiki.
That's the problem with forced renames, a lot of traction is
Of course, the value of an established moniker is one thing that
It's a *fork* of FFmpeg that is becoming libav Posted Mar 15, 2011 16:49 UTC (Tue) by job (guest, #670) [Link]
Another example of this is Joomla. Who remembers Mambo anymore?
When the developers are gone, it is just a matter of time before the old trademark is worthless.
It's a *fork* of FFmpeg that is becoming libav Posted Mar 15, 2011 3:23 UTC (Tue) by iive (guest, #59638) [Link]
@jubal,
You are absolutely right. This is exactly what happened.
It's a *fork* of FFmpeg that is becoming libav Posted Mar 15, 2011 15:00 UTC (Tue) by jubal (subscriber, #67202) [Link]
OK, so I went through the mailing lists
I wouldn't count on the coup leaders' ability to manage a project much; all of this has all signs of power struggle rather than anything else. Specifically:
there are no governance rules set for the new project (aside from the committers are gods and admins are Gods)
On the other hand, the drama is of exquisite mud-slinging kindergarten-quality.
It's a *fork* of FFmpeg that is becoming libav Posted Mar 15, 2011 10:07 UTC (Tue) by salimma (subscriber, #34460) [Link]
For any project small enough not to have a legal body put in charge, it's probably quite common that the initial leader owns the domain, and any coup attempt would have to find another name.
It's a *fork* of FFmpeg that is becoming libav Posted Mar 14, 2011 17:28 UTC (Mon) by Frej (subscriber, #4165) [Link]
Given it is ronald butlje and the naming of the new project is prefixed 'lib', it's likely he will achieve what distroes and users need in a shared library. It is kinda crappy that ffmpeg has to be copied verbatim for every project that uses it, because it has no real stable releases whatsoever.
It's a *fork* of FFmpeg that is becoming libav Posted Mar 15, 2011 3:15 UTC (Tue) by DonDiego (subscriber, #24141) [Link]
> It is kinda crappy that ffmpeg has to be copied verbatim for every project that uses it, because it has no real stable releases whatsoever.
FFmpeg (now libav) has had stable releases since March 2009.
It's a *fork* of FFmpeg that is becoming libav Posted Mar 14, 2011 18:48 UTC (Mon) by robswain (subscriber, #61516) [Link]
The libav maintainers are the same group that initiated the takeover.
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