I don't believe that my comment reached the level of slander. Slander implies that I'm lying about them. I'm commenting on their behavior. Perhaps in UK and other places this might be considered slander. Libel laws in the US are a lot more relaxed. We can actually call people out on their behavior and not get sued for slander/libel.
There are probably a lot of people that would agree that that Larry Ellison is an arrogant douche bag. (I'm sure he's a hero to lots of others.) Oracle and the way it runs seems to exude his personality/style. As a result Oracle as a company seems to be a bunch of douche bags. I think that the exodus of engineers from Sun kind of proves the style of company.
Bob Sutton's book "The No Asshole Rule" discusses the fact that assholes in leadership can result in asshole poisoning. People become assholes because of the environment generated by their leaders.
RedHat is a leader in the commercial opensource world and they didn't get that way by just buying a company with lots of OpenSource projects. As a result they help to set the tone and are able to call people out on bad behavior. If they become douche bags it doesn't bode well that others won't become as bad if not worse.
Let me make clear that I'm not calling the engineers or the general workers at either company douche bags. Unfortunately they have a duty to do what their mgmt wants unless it violates the law.
Posted Mar 4, 2011 23:27 UTC (Fri) by drag (subscriber, #31333)
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> I don't believe that my comment reached the level of slander. Slander implies that I'm lying about them. I'm commenting on their behavior. Perhaps in UK and other places this might be considered slander. Libel laws in the US are a lot more relaxed. We can actually call people out on their behavior and not get sued for slander/libel.
My statement was not dependent on your level of liability in different jurisdictions. I think comparing them to Oracle is unfair.
>Bob Sutton's book "The No Asshole Rule" discusses the fact that assholes in leadership can result in asshole poisoning. People become assholes because of the environment generated by their leaders.
Yes. If a company fails it is because of management. This is obvious.
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Posted Mar 7, 2011 13:30 UTC (Mon) by michel (subscriber, #10186)
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The business world is littered with corpses of great engineering companies. Capitalism has a way of doing that.
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Posted Mar 7, 2011 14:49 UTC (Mon) by clugstj (subscriber, #4020)
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Failure is a required feature of any system that is to actually succeed. It is the height of hubris to think that any individual/group has all the right answers.
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Posted Mar 7, 2011 15:29 UTC (Mon) by michel (subscriber, #10186)
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I agree with both of those statements. I do not understand how those statements relate to my comment though.