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Banshee Amazon Store disabled in Ubuntu 11.04 by Canonical (Network World)

Banshee Amazon Store disabled in Ubuntu 11.04 by Canonical (Network World)

Posted Feb 16, 2011 19:47 UTC (Wed) by nlee (guest, #730)
In reply to: Banshee Amazon Store disabled in Ubuntu 11.04 by Canonical (Network World) by jspaleta
Parent article: Banshee Amazon Store disabled in Ubuntu 11.04 by Canonical (Network World)

"The offer on the table was for Canonical to _take_ 75% of the revenue from the Amazon storefront they didn't build in an application they don't help develop."

How about the flip sides? Ubuntu produce a popular platform for people's desktops, this costs them money. Why should Banshee be able to use this platform to generate cash without any contribution back to the provider?

One thing I do not understand is why Banshee turned down 25% of the income from 100% of Banshee users on Ubuntu vs 100% of the income of maybe 5-10% of Banshee users on Ubuntu who know how to turn the Amazon store.


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Banshee Amazon Store disabled in Ubuntu 11.04 by Canonical (Network World)

Posted Feb 17, 2011 5:25 UTC (Thu) by AndreE (subscriber, #60148) [Link]

Are you suggesting that it's reasonable for platforms to charge developers for the right to be installable?

The platform wouldn't exist without the software. On the other hand Banshee exists on a number of platforms other than Ubuntu

Banshee Amazon Store disabled in Ubuntu 11.04 by Canonical (Network World)

Posted Feb 17, 2011 20:24 UTC (Thu) by nlee (guest, #730) [Link]

"Are you suggesting that it's reasonable for platforms to charge developers for the right to be installable?"

I'm suggesting that if an application generates "subscription" (*) revenue, why shouldn't the platform providing the chance for the application to generate this income request a share.

As to whether 75/25 is fair is another question - always a chance for Banshee to negotiate.

(*) Including ads or referal income

Banshee Amazon Store disabled in Ubuntu 11.04 by Canonical (Network World)

Posted Feb 17, 2011 21:43 UTC (Thu) by jspaleta (subscriber, #50639) [Link]

The ability for Banshee to negotiate the X/Y split is an assumption. No one has so far stated that Canonical was willing to negotiate on the terms of the split or that Banshee developers failed to inquire if Canonical was interested in negotiating. The only statement on record that we have is from the Banshee camp that Canonical presented them with 2 options and they chose the option they were most comfortable with.

The statement's so far on record are not written in such a way as to give insight as to whether Canonical was receptive to any efforts to negotiate something other than those 2 options or if any such efforts from Banshee devs were floated. If you can point me to something written from either a Banshee dev or from a Canonical exec that suggests otherwise...please providing me with a reference for me to read over.

-jef

Banshee Amazon Store disabled in Ubuntu 11.04 by Canonical (Network World)

Posted Feb 17, 2011 16:52 UTC (Thu) by JEDIDIAH (guest, #14504) [Link]

> Ubuntu produce a popular platform for people's desktops

No they don't.

They PACKAGE a popular platform for people's desktop.

Someone else produces it.

Banshee Amazon Store disabled in Ubuntu 11.04 by Canonical (Network World)

Posted Feb 17, 2011 20:28 UTC (Thu) by nlee (guest, #730) [Link]

"Someone else produces it."

How is your statement different from what Debian does? Or slackware? Or even LFS?

You can't argue that Ubuntu provides no value.

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