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Banshee Amazon Store disabled in Ubuntu 11.04 by Canonical (Network World)Banshee Amazon Store disabled in Ubuntu 11.04 by Canonical (Network World)Posted Feb 16, 2011 18:26 UTC (Wed) by NAR (subscriber, #1313)In reply to: Banshee Amazon Store disabled in Ubuntu 11.04 by Canonical (Network World) by jspaleta Parent article: Banshee Amazon Store disabled in Ubuntu 11.04 by Canonical (Network World) The offer on the table was for Canonical to _take_ 75% of the revenue from the Amazon storefront they didn't build in an application they don't help develop. They don't develop neither build that application - they distribute it. That Banshee application wouldn't generate any revenue if it would just languish in source code form on some server. Of course, I have no idea how big is the Ubuntu users' share in all Banshee installations (probably nobody has exact figures), so maybe that 75% is not that much or way too much. The average gain in some retail business could be around 50%, so 75% seems to be a little too much, but they probably know what they are doing...
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Banshee Amazon Store disabled in Ubuntu 11.04 by Canonical (Network World) Posted Feb 16, 2011 19:24 UTC (Wed) by pboddie (subscriber, #50784) [Link] They don't develop neither build that application - they distribute it. That Banshee application wouldn't generate any revenue if it would just languish in source code form on some server. But this argument starts to resemble something like, "Aren't you happy that your software is popular, developers?!" And then the attitude is that people's primary goal in writing Free Software is for that software to become as popular as possible, regardless of the compromises made in order to achieve that goal. Next up: "We don't like the licence you've used since we can't make a proprietary version of your application which we think would be very popular. Don't you want to be popular?"
Banshee Amazon Store disabled in Ubuntu 11.04 by Canonical (Network World) Posted Feb 16, 2011 20:13 UTC (Wed) by Lovechild (guest, #3592) [Link]
We collect anonymous statistics and Ubuntu account for the majority of users who opt in. The stats aren't publicly available yet for reasons unknown to me (likely lack of manpower).
The last figures I have put Ubuntu at 73% of all users. Admittedly these are from right after we enabled the feature in the 1.5.4 release and Ubuntu is simply an easier platform for users to experience development releases of Banshee which could bias the number. However since I read every incoming bug report and the same data regarding the underlying system is present in the logs this number does not seem far off.
The vast majority of our users are on Ubuntu using any way of counting them I have available.
Banshee Amazon Store disabled in Ubuntu 11.04 by Canonical (Network World) Posted Feb 16, 2011 20:19 UTC (Wed) by jspaleta (subscriber, #50639) [Link]
To be clear.. these stats are from user who purchase from the Amazon store, or is it users of banshee generally?
-jef
Banshee Amazon Store disabled in Ubuntu 11.04 by Canonical (Network World) Posted Feb 16, 2011 20:54 UTC (Wed) by Lovechild (guest, #3592) [Link]
users, we do not collect any data on the Amazon. However every bugreport I recall off hand on the Amazon support has been from an Ubuntu user.
Banshee Amazon Store disabled in Ubuntu 11.04 by Canonical (Network World) Posted Feb 16, 2011 21:02 UTC (Wed) by jspaleta (subscriber, #50639) [Link]
I'll point you to the history of the magnatune revenue in rhythmbox. It can be argued that most rhythmbox users were Ubuntu users in 2008 and yet they only accounted for 1/6 of the purchasing revenue generated from rhythmbox from Magnatunes. A majority of users of the application..but a small fraction of consumers willing to pay for content.
The point being. Usage habits and purchasing habits cannot be assumed to correlated, the magnatune revenue data shows the danger in that. Popularity does not directly equate to purchasing power and it can not be assumed that Ubuntu users of banshee will generated revenue in proportion to their numbers.
-jef
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