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Honeycomb is here: Google unveils Android 3.0, new Web-based Market (ars technica)

Posted Feb 5, 2011 6:15 UTC (Sat) by daniel (subscriber, #3181)
In reply to: Honeycomb is here: Google unveils Android 3.0, new Web-based Market (ars technica) by aleXXX
Parent article: Honeycomb is here: Google unveils Android 3.0, new Web-based Market (ars technica)

"I think we're actually progressing quite good with the KDE 4 series :-)"

I will second that. It almost does everything 3.5 did now, except for letting me slide away the task bar, a feature I dearly miss. It also does a lot of stuff kde 3.5 never attempted.

I am not happy with dbus on which KDE relies, it is a seemingly endless source of bugs, slowdowns and 100% cpu. ICE worked so much better. But that is not the fault of KDE.


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Honeycomb is here: Google unveils Android 3.0, new Web-based Market (ars technica)

Posted Feb 5, 2011 16:45 UTC (Sat) by przemoc (subscriber, #67594) [Link]

> It almost does everything 3.5 did now, except for letting me slide away the task bar, a feature I dearly miss. It also does a lot of stuff kde 3.5 never attempted.

KDE 3.5 - November 2005
KDE 4.0 - January 2008
KDE SC 4.6 - January 2011

So after 5 years KDE4 almost does everything KDE3 did? Impressive.

BTW I like Qt4 very much, but somehow I cannot tell the same about KDE4. I also cannot forget 4.0 as it was released (IMO huge mistake), because it was just not ready for daily use (it was not even of RC quality, maybe early beta mark was appropriate) and definitely not ready to replace 3.5. Real 4.0 should be at least 4.2 (January 2009) or rather 4.3 (August 2009).

Sure, KDE4 is nowadays in many ways better than KDE3 was, no doubt. But rewrites/reworks/substantial "upgrades" stripping many features and functions, reimplementing them (if at all) much later, is not what anyone should be proud of.

Honeycomb is here: Google unveils Android 3.0, new Web-based Market (ars technica)

Posted Feb 5, 2011 18:36 UTC (Sat) by davi (guest, #18853) [Link]

KDE 4.x has lot of bugs and usability regressions with respect to KDE 3.5.

When will the current KDE developers fix the bugs and re-add the features lost in the KDE 4 way? Do it instead of wasting more time trying to fix some of the odd 'features' which have been added in KDE 4.x and that everybody agree are not of any use.

Where are the KDE 3.5 developers? Are all gone?

KDE 4 was a mess and it is a mess yet. Use instead the Trinity KDE 3.5 maintenance version if you want.

Honeycomb is here: Google unveils Android 3.0, new Web-based Market (ars technica)

Posted Feb 6, 2011 5:00 UTC (Sun) by xxiao (subscriber, #9631) [Link]

have never used KDE after tried KDE4 shortly.
Ubuntu is moving to Qt, we will see.
For now I'm a happy Gnome user, while Honeycomb looks very promising on the horizon too.

Honeycomb is here: Google unveils Android 3.0, new Web-based Market (ars technica)

Posted Feb 7, 2011 17:42 UTC (Mon) by daniel (subscriber, #3181) [Link]

<quote>When will the current KDE developers fix the bugs and re-add the features lost in the KDE 4 way?</quote>

Did I mention that most of the KDE 4 bugs I see these days are actually dbus bugs? That's a freedesktop.org project more closely associated with Gnome and KDE. [conspiracy theory goes here]

In any case, both KDE 3.5 and kde 4.5 accomplish the same thing: let me get my work done without getting in my face, and give me the customization options I want. With the exception of scrolling away the task bar. Short wish list, what?

The fact that KDE 4.5 supports nearly all the functionality of 3.5 is intended as a compliment because KDE 3.5 is awesome. I look forward to the moment when I get my scrollable task bar back in which case from my point of view KDE 4.x will meet or beat KDE 3.5 in every way, not just most ways.

Honeycomb is here: Google unveils Android 3.0, new Web-based Market (ars technica)

Posted Feb 6, 2011 12:03 UTC (Sun) by modernjazz (guest, #4185) [Link]

> I also cannot forget 4.0 as it was released (IMO huge mistake), because it was just not ready for daily use (it was not even of RC quality, maybe early beta mark was appropriate) and definitely not ready to replace 3.5.

Yes, it does seem that a surprising number of people love to rehash the 4.0 release so much that they cannot enjoy what KDE4 has become.

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