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Well, yes...

Posted Jan 28, 2011 0:31 UTC (Fri) by khim (subscriber, #9252)
In reply to: Why DJB's plan fail by bojan
Parent article: LCA: IP address exhaustion and the end of the open net

Oh, sorry. The grand plan forged 20 years ago that produced nothing thus far is a great success. Just like Itanium. :-)

Sorry, but there is a difference: Itanium was great success for a time - before AMD started selling Opterons. When Opteron outsold Itanium is was easy to see and say that Itanium is failure - but not before.

Now, where is your alternative to IPv6 with more users then IPv6 (or at least with estimates which show that it'll overcome number of IPv6 deployments any time soon). Till such alternative materializes DJBs plan is just a useless rant.

Nobody is calling anyone an idiot. It just a bad, bad plan that didn't really work.

Why do you say it didn't work? Where is your alternative which pushes IPv6 away?

So, the grand plan for a clean new protocol needs "emulators" to work. Simply hilarious!

It's sad, not hilarious, but it's no different from AMD64, for example: without syscall 32bit emulation layer your old programs no longer work. And your 32bit drivers no longer work period.

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Well, yes...

Posted Jan 28, 2011 0:42 UTC (Fri) by bojan (subscriber, #14302) [Link]

> Itanium was great success for a time

Hey, when did we switch to stand up comedy? I wasn't warned! Good one - love it. ;-)

> Why do you say it didn't work?

Remember that ping6 I did to ipv6.google.com? It says network unreachable. I'm pretty sure I'm connected. Not sure what's going on there... :-)

> Where is your alternative which pushes IPv6 away?

I don't want to push it away. I'd like to use it. But I can't.

> without syscall 32bit emulation layer your old programs no longer work. And your 32bit drivers no longer work period.

Yes they do. On my 32-bit OS running on amd64.

Oh, and on 64-bit, I didn't even know I had 32bit emulation layer (OK, I did, but I didn't have to know) and they still worked. Good folk at Red Hat and Microsoft did all that for me. So sad they couldn't reuse my IPv4 address to use on IPv6.