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LCA: IP address exhaustion and the end of the open netLCA: IP address exhaustion and the end of the open netPosted Jan 26, 2011 18:38 UTC (Wed) by foom (subscriber, #14868)In reply to: LCA: IP address exhaustion and the end of the open net by foom Parent article: LCA: IP address exhaustion and the end of the open net
Oh, and in case it wasn't clear: the lack of uPNP/NAT-PMP IPv6 makes using IPv6 through such a stateful filter a *WORSE* experience than using IPv4 through NAT currently is.
Applications on home endpoints still can't directly accept incoming connections (wasn't the like the whole point of IPv6?), and unlike with IPv4 there was (is?) no widely-accepted/implemented protocol to allow random endpoints to request such access.
IPv6 for the home, if we're to have a stateful firewall between all users and the internet, seems basically useless -- it doesn't enable applications like video chat or p2p filesharing to work any easier or more reliably than on IPv4...
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LCA: IP address exhaustion and the end of the open net Posted Jan 26, 2011 23:37 UTC (Wed) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]
> IPv6 for the home, if we're to have a stateful firewall between all users and the internet, seems basically useless -- it doesn't enable applications like video chat or p2p filesharing to work any easier or more reliably than on IPv4...
If you have more then one person using the same protocol it can make all the difference in the world.
LCA: IP address exhaustion and the end of the open net Posted Jan 28, 2011 11:27 UTC (Fri) by i3839 (guest, #31386) [Link]
That is total rubbish.
The way for an application to open an incoming port is, well, to open a socket on that port and listen to it. That's it. It magically works with no stupidity going on.
People have forgotten this because NAT madness and overzealous firewalls have entrenched themselves deeply enough.
You only need a firewall if you, as a user, want to restrict who and what may access what or who else. If applications can change that policy then you can as well have no firewall at all.
Firewalls are overrated. In this case Apple did the right thing and should have ignored all the whiners.
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