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What did Oracle do to make Android?

What did Oracle do to make Android?

Posted Jan 22, 2011 6:47 UTC (Sat) by bojan (subscriber, #14302)
In reply to: What did Oracle do to make Android? by FlorianMueller
Parent article: New alleged evidence of Android infringement isn't a smoking gun (ars technica)

By blowing things out of proportion. Google have deep pockets and lots of resources. They can reimplement anything in dispute and pay any fines. In the meantime Oracle still have nothing to sell in the mobile market.

This is about envy and monopoly (I am still waiting for an internal report of Larry tossing chairs around the office ;-). Helping Oracle by providing free resources for them isn't exactly a favour to FOSS.


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What did Oracle do to make Android?

Posted Jan 22, 2011 8:37 UTC (Sat) by FlorianMueller (guest, #32048) [Link]

On the one hand, you say it's not a favor to FOSS to provide free resources to Oracle -- and other other hand you point to Google's deep pockets and resources, although those of Oracle are comparable.

I assume Oracle has already done a lot of work to identify copyright infringements throughout the Android codebase, possibly also in other Google projects. I'm not helping Oracle. I just want to understand from the outside which of the two parties is more likely to win. The things I found are a strong indication Oracle's complaint is so far more credible than Google's defense. What the consequences of a given infringement will be is another question. I didn't talk about that one in my post.

What did Oracle do to make Android?

Posted Jan 22, 2011 14:18 UTC (Sat) by bojan (subscriber, #14302) [Link]

Just in case I wasn't clear, Oracle are the agressor here. This is not how someone that supposedly licenses Java as open source is supposed to behave. They could have simply asked Google to remove/reimplement any infringing code and that would be that. Instead, they dropped nuclear weapons on Google.

They do not deserve anything, especially not you making their case for them through your blog.

Let's not forget that a lot of people have real choice when it comes to smartphones, tablets and other devices due to Google's efforts. It is only by wild imagination that Oracle had any meaningful contribution there. It is as simple as that.

Also remember how Oracle took ASF for a ride when it comes to Java. They are mean spirited indeed.

PS. Apologies to any Oracle employees that are reading this. None of the above is directed at you.

What did Oracle do to make Android?

Posted Jan 23, 2011 14:03 UTC (Sun) by clump (subscriber, #27801) [Link]

I respectfully ask that you disclose any conflicts of interest.

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