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Microsoft Takes Linux For A Test Drive (TechWeb)

Posted Jul 31, 2003 19:08 UTC (Thu) by mmarq (guest, #2332)
Parent article: Microsoft Takes Linux For A Test Drive (TechWeb)

humm,.. i belive they are pretty confused!... at least it sounds like...

DONT BET ON A M$ LINUX... EVER!

They are only figuring out better,... whys??..., and better ways to try to destroy it!!,...

Many would say that there is time to M$ to change, but if all the zillions of media articles, have some of truth, M$ are going to close themselfs and its users behind .NET/PALLADIUM/NGSPB/LONGHORN..., perhahps, more than one step for a HEAVLY DRM GUARDED COMPUTER PLATFORM, but with all certainty a "PC" where only M$ can play.

THAT IS WHY HARDWARE SUPPORT FOR LINUX, IS MORE IMPORTANT NOW THAN EVER!

With all the technologies falling behind it, kobjects, sysfs, dinamyc device plug and unplug..., i belive that is time for Gnu/Linux, Open Standards Group(LSB), the "new" Open Group" (owner of Unix Trademark) to came together and define also a new "COMPUTER PLATFORM CERTIFICATE", based on Open/Linux Bios and other "open only standards" like ACPI, and where DRM could be allowed but only with a guarantied ability to shut it completly off.

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Microsoft Takes Linux For A Test Drive (TechWeb)

Posted Jul 31, 2003 21:03 UTC (Thu) by ccchips (guest, #3222) [Link]

Far be it for me to disagree, considering what they did to Netscape and to Gary Kildall and friends (not that Apple is clean on that score, either.)

However, IBM (seems to have) changed, so I'll keep an open mind.

....and an ear to the ground.

Microsoft Takes Linux For A Test Drive (TechWeb)

Posted Aug 1, 2003 3:58 UTC (Fri) by piman (subscriber, #8957) [Link]

DRM that can be shut off is no good; either it means that content publishers will release for DRM that can't be shut off, or shutting off the DRM will prevent you from using the content (this is how Palladium works, basically). The only real solution is to eliminate DRM completely; since we can't prevent people from coding DRM, instead, we need to make it legal to crack DRM. The real solution isn't to develop an "open DRM platform", but to oppose the DMCA or similar laws.

Interesting that chose ACPI as an open standard; It is, but Microsoft was also heavily involved in its creation. Generalizations get you nowhere.

Microsoft Takes Linux For A Test Drive (TechWeb)

Posted Aug 1, 2003 19:18 UTC (Fri) by mmarq (guest, #2332) [Link]

NO, NO, f??k applications and OSes that depend exclusivly on DRM,... the idea of allowing them is only because some people might need them... dont forget that, now is clear, that you can have a superior server and a superior desktop based only on "open-Source"!... and you dont put DRM in an application that has the code "open" because it dosent make sense!, and much less for "Open-Format" content(web, pictures,sound, video),... it only makes sense in cases of allowing Open Source to communicate with applications and content that have DRM but provide a "PUBLIC KEY or LINUX KEY" - ( i'm thinking of photoshop,web, pictures,sound, video,...)

If applications and content that have DRM but do not communicate whit other applications and content whitout DRM (opposite of all Open-Source applications and all Open-Format content), "IS THE GENERAL STANDARD" than M$ has already won, a "we" better start to dismantle WWW consortium, GNU, OSDL,... because using computers is, at least, from the very beginning a flud of private keys autentication... and theres no "CRACKING" that can save it!

But if things go better for the public side, you'll have "Open" dominating and you can have DRM, because no one, beside M$, is going to close himself in the cold.