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Screw SunScrew SunPosted Jul 31, 2003 16:19 UTC (Thu) by JohnBell (guest, #12625)In reply to: Screw Sun by fx Parent article: Sun Sees Road To Prosperity Paved With Its Own Products (TechWeb) Look, Sun equipment is great and all, but it's not the be all and end all of computing. Don't look behind you, someone might be catching up faster than you think. A -lot- faster.
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Screw Sun Posted Jul 31, 2003 17:03 UTC (Thu) by fx (guest, #12077) [Link] Of course SUN is not the be all and end all of computing, but I wouldn't describe it as "another failing proprietay UNIX company" either.For what it's worth I happen to be a RHCE and I've been using Linux since 1994. If Linux catches up with Solaris on a 64-way server tomorrow I'll have been waiting for 9 years. I wouldn't call that "fast".
Screw Sun Posted Jul 31, 2003 17:49 UTC (Thu) by JohnBell (guest, #12625) [Link] I'll admit to being born, just not yesterday.I don't recall 15K systems being production ready and for sale in 1994. Solaris wasn't worth the powder it would take to blow it up in 1994, for that matter. If you wanted 64 bit computing at that time you were looking at Alpha systems from Digital. I know that for a fact, because I had to evaluate HP vs. Sun vs. Digital as part of the TAC 3 / TAC 4 transition proposals in our project for the Navy (SQQ-32). Sun was, at best, a workstation vendor in 1994. Saying anything more than that is twisting history into very strange shapes. As for Linux catching up to Solaris on 64-way sparcs, I believe David Miller has already shown that v2.4 can more than keep up to Solaris on equivalent equipment. Given that, it's always been about the applications, not the platform itself. As it always is when you're dropping multiple millions on a piece of equipment.
Screw Sun Posted Jul 31, 2003 18:31 UTC (Thu) by fx (guest, #12077) [Link] Solaris was indeed in it's infancy in 1994, did I ever claim otherwise (SunOS was very mature at the time)? In the mean time it has become the #1 UNIX on the block, SUN has eaten the competition alive during the .com boom and Digital, the Alpha and HP's PA-RISC are meatballs.I'm not twisting reality. SUN has indeed matured a lot since then, up to the point where they are now: the leading proprietary UNIX vendor, having so much cash on their hands they can give OpenOffice away for free so the Linux purists finally have a half decent office suite. Linux on SUN Fire equipment... hm... I'd like to see what happens to Linux when I pull out a system board from a 4800 ...
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