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What's the point anyway?

Posted Dec 3, 2010 4:06 UTC (Fri) by ccurtis (guest, #49713)
In reply to: What's the point anyway? by bfields
Parent article: The dark side of open source conferences

Well, there was the 2008 OLS whisky bof that came with instructions that you weren't allowed in without a bottle of whisky.

I think you very much misinterpreted whatever phrasing was there.

A BOF isn't an official event, and some leniency should be allowed for how people freely associate after the conference has concluded for the day. I, and several other people, went to said BOF; none of us brought a bottle of whiskey, and all were allowed in. That said, a whiskey BOF isn't really a whiskey BOF if nobody brings whiskey, so being encouraged to bring your favorite bottle is hardly a crime.

As to the event itself - yes, there was an organized event; by whom I do not know. Bus rental was arranged and you had to pay your own share to ride there. The whiskey BOF was held at the same place, but there aren't too many places where you can just carry in 50 (or whatever) bottles of whiskey so no matter where it happens it's going to seem like some semi-official event in a special location.

Right?


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What's the point anyway?

Posted Dec 3, 2010 17:27 UTC (Fri) by bfields (subscriber, #19510) [Link]

"I think you very much misinterpreted whatever phrasing was there."

The email Andrew Hutton sent to people who followed up to the original announcement to attendees said "admission is one (sealed) bottle of single malt whisky", followed by a paragraph of detail about exactly what that meant. Maybe he just got lost in the details and didn't mean in to come out that way, but as written it was fairly clear.

"none of us brought a bottle of whiskey, and all were allowed in."

Yeah, in fairness I knew if I asked I might get a different answer, and if it had a been a big deal I would have; as it was I think I was a little on the fence anyway and found something else to do.

"A BOF isn't an official event, and some leniency should be allowed for how people freely associate after the conference has concluded for the day."

Sure. Looks like Andrew Hutton organized it and sent email to all the attendees. Maybe the only difference that year was that he invited everyone on the attendee list.

"none of us brought a bottle of whiskey, and all were allowed in."

I'm not crusading for prohibition here--as organizer of our own little local weekly kernel hacker's pub night, that'd make me a hypocrite--I'd just suggest that if you're a conference organizer wondering how to make your conference welcoming to a variety of people, then you may want to keep the non-drinkers in mind when you announce events that you're organizing.

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