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I'll update my worldview when I see reasonI'll update my worldview when I see reasonPosted Nov 24, 2010 13:58 UTC (Wed) by nhippi (subscriber, #34640)In reply to: I'll update my worldview when I see reason by kmself Parent article: Novell sold to Attachmate
It is a bit silly to list events that happened 20 years ago..
We didn't make IBM run away from Linux in 2000 because IBM was _the_ evil FUD dispersing big company in 1980.
Companies and their relevance does change over time, and we should co-operate with whoever wants to be friendly with FOSS community.. regardless of their past and holding no illusions the company will remain friends forever.
That said.. still practically no OSS code commits from @microsoft.com.
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I'll update my worldview when I see reason Posted Nov 24, 2010 14:33 UTC (Wed) by mpr22 (subscriber, #60784) [Link] When MSFT release usable, good-quality, non-trivial code that reads on their patents, under a free-derivation free-redistribution commercial-use-permitted licence that includes (or is accompanied by) an explicit royalty-free patent grant, I'll admit they might not be "the enemy".
I'll update my worldview when I see reason Posted Nov 24, 2010 15:05 UTC (Wed) by nye (guest, #51576) [Link]
>That said.. still practically no OSS code commits from @microsoft.com.
Do they still have more code in Linux than Canonical, or has AppArmor changed that?
I'll update my worldview when I see reason Posted Nov 29, 2010 14:35 UTC (Mon) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]
Perhaps not: Crispin (AppArmor's original author) now works for... Microsoft!
I'll update my worldview when I see reason Posted Nov 24, 2010 15:50 UTC (Wed) by whitemice (guest, #3748) [Link]
>That said.. still practically no OSS code commits from @microsoft.com.
Eh? Microsoft has helped out both the Samba 4 and Mono projects extensively. They may not contribute to the kernel but as someone actually in a position to know - Microsoft [employees] make significant contributions to Open Source.
That 20-year trend hasn't changed Posted Nov 25, 2010 1:34 UTC (Thu) by kmself (subscriber, #11565) [Link] And many of the people quoted are still direct players in the company and its "ecosystem" today. IBM experienced a sea-change in the early 1990s. Microsoft have seen some setbacks, but I don't think the company has collectively had the experience IBM did at the time. Changing corporate cultures is, as Barbie might say, hard. Really hard. As for Microsoft contributing to OSS: there are nine commits to the kernel source tree for 2.6.35 from Haiyang Zhang and Hank Janssen. From: log-2.6.35.gz, part of Greg Kroah-Hartman's Kernel History. Microsoft have committed a few of their own projects as OSS, and helped out in a few other ways. Oh yeah: hypocrisy is the spice of life, and companies in particular can be spectacularly inconsistent. That said, at the top, MSFT are still strongly anti-Linux from all I've seen. We're hurting them badly, where it counts.
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