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FSFLA: Linux kernel is "open core"

FSFLA: Linux kernel is "open core"

Posted Nov 10, 2010 21:19 UTC (Wed) by jebba (✭ supporter ✭, #4439)
In reply to: FSFLA: Linux kernel is "open core" by anselm
Parent article: FSFLA: Linux kernel is "open core"

It is not *patronizing* to people who actually *want* to run free software. It is convenience and a feature. If you want to run non-free software, you have tons of options. Why does it bother you so much that there is a subset of the community that wants to have things 100% free and doesn't even want a suggestion of non-free software? Why not just let us do that without all the attacks?

Suggesting that the FSF, of all organizations, is trying to keep people ignorant is ridiculous. It would be hard to come up with an organization that has made people more aware of these issues than anyone else.


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FSFLA: Linux kernel is "open core"

Posted Nov 10, 2010 21:43 UTC (Wed) by anselm (subscriber, #2796) [Link]

Why does it bother you so much that there is a subset of the community that wants to have things 100% free and doesn't even want a suggestion of non-free software? Why not just let us do that without all the attacks?

The last time I checked it was the FSFLA which started »the attacks« by taking the Linux kernel developers to task for producing »free bait« software. If the FSFLA wants to distribute a Linux kernel that is »free« enough for them to use then I'm all in favour. This is what free software is about, after all. However, I'll personally stick to the Debian-provided kernel, which is good enough for me, and I'll not have the FSFLA chide me for not pursuing the correct kind of freedom, thank you very much.

Suggesting that the FSF, of all organizations, is trying to keep people ignorant is ridiculous. It would be hard to come up with an organization that has made people more aware of these issues than anyone else.

You will have to explain to me again how not offering to install the Flash plugin in a browser at all makes people more aware of the issues behind Flash.

FSFLA: Linux kernel is "open core"

Posted Nov 10, 2010 21:54 UTC (Wed) by Los__D (guest, #15263) [Link]

Let me see... First you (FSFLA) comes with an announcement that attacks the Linux developers for not buying into your narrow interpretation of freedom, and when someone responds critically, you whine "Help, help, I'm being oppressed!".

Do you really expect to be part of any rational conversation?

FSFLA: Linux kernel is "open core"

Posted Nov 10, 2010 22:31 UTC (Wed) by jebba (✭ supporter ✭, #4439) [Link]

> First you (FSFLA) comes with an announcement...

I'm the FSFLA? I came with an announcement? How do you make that out? I'm not in it nor have I ever been a member. I don't think I'm even in the FSF, for that matter. But I appreciate what both are doing and have done.

> Do you really expect to be part of any rational conversation?

Not anymore. You can't even identify who you are talking to.

FSFLA: Linux kernel is "open core"

Posted Nov 10, 2010 22:33 UTC (Wed) by Los__D (guest, #15263) [Link]

Sorry, my bad. You just seem to half the writing on FSFLA's behalf.

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