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Software-as-firmware vs software-as-software

Software-as-firmware vs software-as-software

Posted Nov 9, 2010 16:46 UTC (Tue) by vonbrand (subscriber, #4458)
In reply to: Software-as-firmware vs software-as-software by job
Parent article: FSFLA: Linux kernel is "open core"

AFAICS, this point is moot: You are usually allowed to redistribute said firmware and use it on the device it is shipped for, no Linux restriction per se. Sure, in the ATMEL case it might be "firmware for use with the driver for Linux 2.6", but it is not restricted to it.

What is funny is that by current FSF standards, no GNU code could ever have been written...


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Software-as-firmware vs software-as-software

Posted Nov 10, 2010 2:17 UTC (Wed) by lxoliva (subscriber, #40702) [Link]

> by current FSF standards, no GNU code could ever have been written

This is not true. There is some incorrect assumption you're making about the FSF stance. I wonder what it is. Why do you think no GNU code could ever have been written?

Software-as-firmware vs software-as-software

Posted Nov 11, 2010 17:51 UTC (Thu) by vonbrand (subscriber, #4458) [Link]

Because they now insist that everything has to be/run on "free software", even down to firmware for random devices; that certainly wasn't the idea when GNU was hailed as a nice complement to propietary Unices...

Software-as-firmware vs software-as-software

Posted Nov 11, 2010 18:16 UTC (Thu) by Arker (guest, #14205) [Link]

Nonsense.

They have never had any problem bootstrapping with non-free software. There point is simply that this should always be understood clearly as a temporary expedient, rather than an acceptable end-point.

Software-as-firmware vs software-as-software

Posted Nov 11, 2010 19:30 UTC (Thu) by vonbrand (subscriber, #4458) [Link]

So running forever on totally propietary Unices was fine, having an (eventually replaceable) blob loaded into some crevice of the system which is running otherwise "free" software isn't? I'd expect that kind of attitude given FLOSS was on at least 80% of desktops, until then...

Software-as-firmware vs software-as-software

Posted Nov 11, 2010 21:47 UTC (Thu) by DOT (subscriber, #58786) [Link]

"temporary"

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