> if you don't feel and responsibility for anyone but your users [...]
so first it's our fault that our code isn't accepted in vanilla for whatever reasons then it's also our fault that we still dare to make it available for anyone who cares. and to crown the absurdity, we're at fault for caring about these people. man, are you sure you have anything to do with security? i'm seriously worried about *your* users.
> [...]and have no intent to try and push the fixes upstream
maybe you're not a native speaker, but if you re-read spender's post carefully, you'll note that he made the cooperation conditional. it's the sentence that starts with the 'if' word, i'm sure you'll be able to find all one instance of it.
> [...]then your tree just became pretty irrelavent to linux security for anyone except for your users.
wait, are you saying grsec *was* relevant up to this very moment in time for anyone but grsec users? wow, i take it you won't elaborate but i smell magic here.
> even though you will make a lot of noise each time someone recreates your work
only if they 'forget' to credit the people for the ideas and/or the code or if they fuck up the implementation. just ask ingo ;).