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Fork off: mass exodus from OOo as contributors join LibreOffice (ars technica)
Ars technica looks
at the growing support for LibreOffice. "The OpenOffice.org (OOo) community has declared independence from Oracle as members have joined the LibreOffice project, a fork of the open source office suite. In an open letter published on the OOo mailing list, a group of over 30 contributors affirmed their intention to abandon Oracle's code base in favor of LibreOffice. They say that the fork's more inclusive environment and community-driven management offer a powerful opportunity to advance the software."
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Fork off: mass exodus from OOo as contributors join LibreOffice (ars technica) Posted Nov 2, 2010 22:28 UTC (Tue) by bojan (subscriber, #14302) [Link]
So, when is the patent/copyright lawsuit due?
OpenOffice is GPL Posted Nov 3, 2010 0:06 UTC (Wed) by jpnp (subscriber, #63341) [Link]
OpenOffice was released by Sun as LGPL; that license includes patent grants so Oracle wouldn't have any unlicensed patents to sue over. Oracle do own the trademarks to OOo, fortunately LibreOffice is called something else.
This is not the same as Google who built their own java-like system and used Harmony code unlicensed by Sun/Oracle.
I wouldn't think there's a great risk to LibreOffice partners.
OpenOffice is GPL Posted Nov 3, 2010 0:20 UTC (Wed) by bojan (subscriber, #14302) [Link]
My comment was meant as tongue-in-cheek.
OpenOffice is GPL Posted Nov 3, 2010 0:32 UTC (Wed) by jpnp (subscriber, #63341) [Link]
Ah well, that went right over my head, I'm afraid.
Dealing with patent risks in code is a frustrating business. I have been involved in it on occasion and feel thankful that LibreOffice have decent patent grant language going for them.
OpenOffice is GPL Posted Nov 3, 2010 2:23 UTC (Wed) by proski (subscriber, #104) [Link] I think it's unfair to dismiss somebody who posted a good analysis of the situation just because you didn't mean your comment seriously. Few things are more annoying than somebody who contributed very little to the discussion making fun of somebody who contributed something valuable.
OpenOffice is GPL Posted Nov 4, 2010 16:55 UTC (Thu) by chad.netzer (✭ supporter ✭, #4257) [Link]
I assume you meant to reply to bojan, instead of jpnp, but in any case I took bojan's followup to simply be clarification, not 'dismissal'. And you're right that jpnp's comments stand as is.
OpenOffice is GPL Posted Nov 5, 2010 16:31 UTC (Fri) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link] OpenOffice was released by Sun as LGPL; that license includes patent grants so Oracle wouldn't have any unlicensed patents to sue over... ...and this is true as long as you don't change anything in LibreOffice. The same very second LibreOffice adds feature from StarOffice (not OpenOffice) it's open to patent lawsuit. And last time I've checked the idea behind LibreOffice was to advance it, not to keep it in some kind of frozen limbo...
OpenOffice is GPL Posted Nov 15, 2010 19:52 UTC (Mon) by jd (guest, #26381) [Link]
Worse, licenses don't necessarily mean a whole lot in this game. SCO only lost because they battled people with enough money to survive the time it took to prove SCO had no case.
Oracle, on the other hand, has much more money than LibreOffice, and there's no reason to think that the big corporate giants will help out.
Oracle's attitude doesn't mesh with their original promise to treat Libre Office fairly even if they didn't directly cooperate. Ordering resignations sounds a little more hostile than their official statement.
Fork off: mass exodus from OOo as contributors join LibreOffice (ars technica) Posted Nov 2, 2010 22:31 UTC (Tue) by mlankhorst (subscriber, #52260) [Link] Excellent, it seems oracle learned their lessons on how to destroy your community and is now coming up with a few creative ways of their own.
Fork off: mass exodus from OOo as contributors join LibreOffice (ars technica) Posted Nov 2, 2010 22:51 UTC (Tue) by jengelh (subscriber, #33263) [Link]
An asset of immaterial value - now you know why they acquired Sun :-)
Fork off: mass exodus from OOo as contributors join LibreOffice (ars technica) Posted Nov 3, 2010 0:25 UTC (Wed) by bojan (subscriber, #14302) [Link]
He, he... :-)
So, that's two down: Java and OOo. What's next? ;-)
Fork off: mass exodus from OOo as contributors join LibreOffice (ars technica) Posted Nov 3, 2010 0:33 UTC (Wed) by jpnp (subscriber, #63341) [Link]
You're not counting OpenSolaris?
Fork off: mass exodus from OOo as contributors join LibreOffice (ars technica) Posted Nov 3, 2010 1:10 UTC (Wed) by bojan (subscriber, #14302) [Link]
Touché. :-)
Fork off: mass exodus from OOo as contributors join LibreOffice (ars technica) Posted Nov 3, 2010 1:31 UTC (Wed) by rahvin (subscriber, #16953) [Link]
Point. I thought it was three at this point (As noted, OO.org, Java and OpenSolaris) and working on 4 with Mysql service contracts and terms that are simply going to destroy the entire business and push it to outside companies.
Fork off: mass exodus from OOo as contributors join LibreOffice (ars technica) Posted Nov 3, 2010 6:10 UTC (Wed) by patrick_g (subscriber, #44470) [Link] There is also Lustre. See these two links :- Lustre 2.0 support limited to Oracle hardware customers - Lustre Gets Backing of Non-Profit Corporation
Fork off: mass exodus from OOo as contributors join LibreOffice (ars technica) Posted Nov 3, 2010 6:46 UTC (Wed) by tzafrir (subscriber, #11501) [Link]
VirtualBox?
Fork off: mass exodus from OOo as contributors join LibreOffice (ars technica) Posted Nov 7, 2010 2:24 UTC (Sun) by MattPerry (guest, #46341) [Link]
Shh! Don't remind them that they own it. Maybe then they'll leave VirtualBox alone.
Fork off: mass exodus from OOo as contributors join LibreOffice (ars technica) Posted Nov 3, 2010 20:27 UTC (Wed) by Lennie (subscriber, #49641) [Link]
Only thing I want from Oracle is their part of the work on btrfs, but that is just a few developers, they could get work somewhere else I'm sure. ;-)
When you look at it an other way, maybe the Sun developers could help with btrfs. But I don't see Oracle do that.
At this point, all I've heared so far (fairly recent) is what Mason said: I haven't even talked to the zfs-developers jet.
Fork off: mass exodus from OOo as contributors join LibreOffice (ars technica) Posted Nov 4, 2010 2:55 UTC (Thu) by mfedyk (guest, #55303) [Link]
there's also openAM
Fork off: mass exodus from OOo as contributors join LibreOffice (ars technica) Posted Nov 3, 2010 4:05 UTC (Wed) by SEJeff (subscriber, #51588) [Link]
Was that ever worth counting? *ducks*
Fork off: mass exodus from OOo as contributors join LibreOffice (ars technica) Posted Nov 3, 2010 7:30 UTC (Wed) by cheney (guest, #70977) [Link]
oracle is a monopoly worth billions of dollars
ok linux idiots, take a minute and go to oracle.com:
more database
ok linux idiots, your "community" model and LAMP is for sale:
msft - revenue $62b, profit $50b, net income $19b, employees 89k
do the math linux idiots, b == billions of us dollars
:)
Fork off: mass exodus from OOo as contributors join LibreOffice (ars technica) Posted Nov 3, 2010 7:44 UTC (Wed) by oblio (guest, #33465) [Link]
Besides the obvious troll - is there a message in there?
1. That BigCo are stealing Open Source (OSS = Open Source Software ) technologies? That's by design, the point is that BigCo can use the Open Source stuff but I get to use and modify them as well. Unlike proprietary software.
Now, you message is really incoherent, I recommend laying of the booze for a while ^.^
Fork off: mass exodus from OOo as contributors join LibreOffice (ars technica) Posted Nov 3, 2010 9:23 UTC (Wed) by Gerardo (subscriber, #37539) [Link]
Hmm, the nick "cheney" may indicate the troll was joking, posing as a BigCo supporter :-)
Fork off: mass exodus from OOo as contributors join LibreOffice (ars technica) Posted Nov 3, 2010 8:07 UTC (Wed) by nicooo (guest, #69134) [Link]
Cool story, bro.
Fork off: mass exodus from OOo as contributors join LibreOffice (ars technica) Posted Nov 3, 2010 8:52 UTC (Wed) by petegn (guest, #847) [Link]
Ok windblows wet you said your detritus now go back into you slime pit ang go back to sleep
Fork off: mass exodus from OOo as contributors join LibreOffice (ars technica) Posted Nov 3, 2010 17:47 UTC (Wed) by NightMonkey (subscriber, #23051) [Link]
Where do I get my "Proud Linux Idiot since 1998" t-shirt and bumper sticker? :)
Fork off: mass exodus from OOo as contributors join LibreOffice (ars technica) Posted Nov 3, 2010 18:53 UTC (Wed) by TeDiouS (guest, #67602) [Link]
:-).....Fork you.
Fork off: mass exodus from OOo as contributors join LibreOffice (ars technica) Posted Nov 4, 2010 15:10 UTC (Thu) by ccchips (guest, #3222) [Link]
(: QQQQ
Fork off: mass exodus from OOo as contributors join LibreOffice (ars technica) Posted Nov 3, 2010 9:33 UTC (Wed) by Felix.Braun (subscriber, #3032) [Link]
It is noteworthy, that the signatories of the open letter referenced in the article are almost the entirety of OOo's German language sub-project, which, as a consequence, is left vacant, and the German non-profit foundation (http://www.ooodev.org/).
Fork off: mass exodus from OOo as contributors join LibreOffice (ars technica) Posted Nov 3, 2010 14:50 UTC (Wed) by marcH (subscriber, #57642) [Link]
> Fork off: mass exodus from OOo as contributors join LibreOffice (ars technica)
Naive question addressed to a native English speaking person: is there any (obvious?) wordplay in this title?
Yes/no answer only please!
Fork off: mass exodus from OOo as contributors join LibreOffice (ars technica) Posted Nov 3, 2010 15:32 UTC (Wed) by angdraug (subscriber, #7487) [Link] Yes.
word play Posted Nov 3, 2010 15:34 UTC (Wed) by tialaramex (subscriber, #21167) [Link]
Yes.
(LWN refuses to post such a short answer without padding)
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