Amazing how someone can be so clueless how the Free Software world works yet still be in such a position of authority.
Dude, Fedora is a free software distribution that serves as the proving ground for RHEL. It does (or better to say RH does) sponsor original new code, mostly in the system integration and infrastructure areas but it's mandate isn't to boldly explore radical and experimental new frontiers in information technology. Most of what they ship is slightly customized packages of the same software everyone else is shipping. More bluntly, do you see RH trying to pitch your new notion to corporate RHEL customers anytime soon? If not why are you expecting Fedora to reorient itself to the mission of implementing your vision?
Get your new reimagining of the the software stack up, at least to the prove the idea has merit level, and let several distros eventually package it and distribute it to a wider audience, perhaps someday as the default.
But don't bet the rent money on it. You aren't the first to propose a totally new computing model based on a pet theory. Just for starters you could ask the Sugar guys how their attempt to take over the world worked out. And in another year or two ask the Meego crew how their far less ambitious project ended up. Or if you can find one willing to cop to the charge, find someone with the Bob project.... that one sure redefined the user experience forever... NOT! Sudden leaps in evolution do happen in IT as in nature. But they are very rare, slow improvement is the norm. Most of the really strange mutants just die a quick death after everyone gets done laughing.
Which future better builds off of those three money makers? The Linux desktop? Or cloud hosted web services? Also keeping in mind that, to date, no one has come close to making money off the Linux desktop.
McGrath: Proposal for a new Fedora project
Posted Oct 5, 2010 3:17 UTC (Tue) by mmcgrath (subscriber, #44906)
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Bad form replying to myself but I didn't address the "doesn't know what a distribution is"
I know exactly what it is. And I know that non-server distributions have gotten very little traction. Which is why I'm proposing something very outside the box. Even our poster-child Ubuntu hasn't been able to bump web client marketshare above 2%. We have roughly the same web client marketshare as iOS on the iphone.
Think about that. We've got roughly the same marketshare as an operating system that is only 3 years old, costs money up front *AND* in many cases has a monthly fee in order to use it. It's not free, at all. And yet it's, at the moment, got similar numbers. Some people don't care about marketshare or users. They're entitled to that. But I have higher hopes for us and this free software model and I'd hate to think that "this is it".
I'm just saying what we're doing... the status quo... It's not working except for on the server. So lets just embrace it, drop what's not working, and move on.
McGrath: Proposal for a new Fedora project
Posted Oct 8, 2010 14:00 UTC (Fri) by compte (guest, #60316)
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You don't have a hardware to go with Fedora. You could ask Intel to do it, to have their laptops pre-installed with a working stable Fedora desktop. I know, there is no stable Fedora desktop, and you don't want to invest money in it because it's not making a profit.
About Ubuntu, it's not stable either or anything close. I would be willing to pay a fair price for a stable desktop, but it has to be popular so its future support is guaranteed, and it want be popular if its not pre-installed. As I said before, RHEL is too outdated for a desktop user.
About Linux missing the Desktop. I know, but there are more than 1000 Linux distributions and various versions within each.