McGrath: Proposal for a new Fedora project [LWN.net]

McGrath: Proposal for a new Fedora project

Posted Oct 4, 2010 15:12 UTC (Mon) by flammon (guest, #807)
In reply to: McGrath: Proposal for a new Fedora project by ajf
Parent article: McGrath: Proposal for a new Fedora project

Please have a look at the CSS3 Template Layout Module and let me know if you're opinion still holds. http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-layout/

Screenshot of layout

Here's the cSS

@page :first {
  display: "A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A" / 5cm
           ".  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  ." / 0.25cm
           "B  .  C  C  C  C  C  C  C" / *
           "B  .  C  C  C  C  C  C  C" / *
           "B  .  C  C  C  C  C  C  C" / *
           "B  .  C  C  C  C  C  C  C" / *
           "B  .  C  C  C  C  C  C  C" / *
           "B  .  D  D  D  D  D  D  D" / *
           "B  .  D  D  D  D  D  D  D" / *
           "B  .  E  E  E  .  F  F  F" / *
           "B  .  E  E  E  .  F  F  F" / *
           "B  .  E  E  E  .  F  F  F" / *
            * 3em * 3em * 3em * 3em *
}
h1 {position: a; border-bottom: thick; margin-bottom: 1.5em}
#toc {position: b; margin-right: -1.5em; border-right: thin;
  padding-right: 1.5em}
#leader {position: c; columns: 4; column-gap: 3em}
#art1 {position: d; columns: 4; column-gap: 3em; border-top: thin}
#art2 {position: e; columns: 2; column-gap: 3em}
#art3 {position: f; columns: 2; column-gap: 3em}

That's quite powerful and very easy to update. What other toolkit allows for such ease?

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McGrath: Proposal for a new Fedora project

Posted Oct 4, 2010 22:57 UTC (Mon) by ajf (subscriber, #10844) [Link]

I'm familiar with that, and I think it has been unfairly derided as "ASCII art". But I also think I know why you had to post a link to a screenshot instead of a web page containing that in its stylesheet so I could see it for myself: because nobody has actually implemented this proposal. Even positive comment describes it as "How we'll lay out websites in 2016".

McGrath: Proposal for a new Fedora project

Posted Oct 5, 2010 15:20 UTC (Tue) by flammon (guest, #807) [Link]

I doubt it will be 2016 before the relevant browsers implement it. Browser development is starting to heat up again and they all seem to want to follow the W3C specs. Even IE9! My guess is that within 3 years we'll see CSS Template Layout implemented in Gecko, Webkit and Trident.

For now we have Flexible Box Layout Module which is still quite nice.