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how about ipv6 and the decentralized cloud?how about ipv6 and the decentralized cloud?Posted Oct 3, 2010 21:23 UTC (Sun) by filteredperception (guest, #5692)Parent article: McGrath: Proposal for a new Fedora project
I tend to agree with the sceptical comments thus far. Perhaps mostly with the idea that such a directional vision is not such a great fit for fedora, but rather some secondary project which utilizes fedora as long as fedora is the right tech for its infrastructure.
What I would like to see in a similarly corporate distruptive vein, is the fruition of the decentralized cloud. It often seems to me that ipv4 and nat are the major blockades to a world where everyones desktops and other devices can act as a replacement for the current corporate provided 'cloud'. That, it seems to me, implemented well, would be how free software could really make an impact against the big $$ corporations that pose the most severe threat to a higher level of computing freedom in the future.
What it would take it seems to me, is perhaps lots of similar groups like the Diaspora project. On top of a foundation of presumably ipv6 where there is no blockade to all of our devices giving 1% of their resources to the decentralized cloud.
But again, this vision is also nothing new, just a different flavor of the koolaid. And again, something that would be a project/movement outside of fedora, utilizing fedora as long as fedora is the right tool for the job.
Really, I think it will be very interesting to see where CentOS-6 takes us. It seems that will be the validation or invalidation of what fedora has been for the last few years. I'm actually pretty optimistic on that front, and see C6 quite possibly providing a solid platform for many radically different, and all disruptive computing stacks.
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how about ipv6 and the decentralized cloud? Posted Oct 5, 2010 12:49 UTC (Tue) by sorpigal (subscriber, #36106) [Link]
I'm with you on this. For Free Software it's not so important to control every widget and webapp that the user runs, it's far more important to control (ie, have the source for) the service layer. Today I can install apache on my desktop and serve my own web site from my house. I could do that in 1998, and I did. The problem with today is that most people would rather hand their data and lives over to a 'free' service that will host things for them than run a local web server. What good is a GPL browser running on a GPL OS when the only thing the user does is use twitter, flickr, facebook, pandora and google docs? The user doesn't control his data and it's locked up in non-Free services. I'd sooner see Internet Explorer on Windows connecting to a local AGPL'd service hooked in to a federated system.
The thing we need isn't more GPL'd HTML5 widgets but easy to install, easy to set up "cloud" type services that can connect with each other and do useful things that normal people want (and do it without being chained to a centralized corporate master.) If "running Linux" meant simple LAN sharing, like streaming video or audio between boxes and accessing your files from any device, instead of just meaning "my games don't work" then a lot of people would be on board. I know plenty of 20-something's who don't do anything application-wise outside of a web browser and would be perfectly happy with Linux if only it made managing music and photos easier (where "easy" is "no more difficult than filling out a form.") If syncing those up to the internet so friends can get them was easy, too, then that would be a killer feature.
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