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Limbo: a new Red Hat Linux beta

From:  Bill Nottingham <notting@redhat.com>
To:  redhat-watch-list@redhat.com
Subject:  Announcing a beta release of Red Hat Linux: Limbo
Date:  Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:08:44 -0400

A formless gray void shifts around you. You feel neither pleasure
nor pain; mainly a sense of waiting. Other souls similarly confused
shuffle aimlessly about. What do you do now? Where do you go from here?

Welcome to LIMBO, a new beta release of Red Hat Linux.

LIMBO includes, but is not limited to:
      - the latest desktop technology
      - gcc-3.1
      - Mozilla 1.0+
      - OpenOffice 1.0
      - and much much more
      
Such beta software as LIMBO is not intended for use on mission critical
or production systems. Use on such systems could lead to loss of uptime,
data, money, employment, or sentience.

Remember, if it breaks, you get to keep all 1491 pieces.

Problems with LIMBO should be reported via bugzilla, at:

  http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/

As always, you can find LIMBO at redhat.com. Specifically:

 ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/

or, at the following mirrors:

North America:
 - ftp://redhat.dulug.duke.edu/pub/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/ (http and also rsync access)
 - ftp://carroll.aset.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/redhat/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/ 
 - ftp://ftp.cse.buffalo.edu/pub/Linux/redhat/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/
 - ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/
 - ftp://limestone.uoregon.edu/redhat/beta/limbo/
 - ftp://ftp.shuttleamerica.com/pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/ (also rsync access)
 - ftp://mirror.cs.princeton.edu/pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/

Europe:
 - ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/redhat-ftp/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/
 - ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/linux/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/
 - ftp://alviss.et.tudelft.nl/pub/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/
 - ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/site/ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/
 - ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pub/linux/redhat.com/dist/linux/beta/limbo/ (http and also rsync access)
 - ftp://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/MIRRORS/ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/ (also rsync access)
 - ftp://ftp.uni-bayreuth.de/pub/redhat/linux/beta/limbo/

or check http://www.redhat.com/download/mirror.html for a mirror near
you.

For discussion of LIMBO, send mail to:

  limbo-list-request@redhat.com

with

  subscribe

in the subject line. You can leave the body empty. Or see:

  https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/limbo-list/



to post comments

Limbo: a new Red Hat Linux beta

Posted Jul 3, 2002 20:22 UTC (Wed) by DeletedUser1717 ((unknown), #1717) [Link] (1 responses)

Hurray! LVM setup is available at installation time. This is good - I really hoped it would be in 7.3....

And Apache 2.0 for the first time...

And Netscape 4.x finally bites the dust.

Limbo: a new Red Hat Linux beta

Posted Jul 4, 2002 14:03 UTC (Thu) by mwh (guest, #582) [Link]

And, praise the Gods, the end of Python 1.5.2.

All hail 2.2.1.

Limbo: a new Red Hat Linux beta

Posted Jul 4, 2002 8:30 UTC (Thu) by DeletedUser2427 ((unknown), #2427) [Link] (2 responses)

Great, and thanks RH!

Now to my question:

Won't there be, this time, also 586 versions?
(and not only 386)

Most of the future users of this future release (at least 90% in my humble opinion), will install it under P4, so even 586 is a compromise. 386 compatibility is an ancient thing.

I don't know the exact difference in performance, but I'm sure that using the extra capabilities of P4, or at least 586, gives much more power.

This is what Mandrake does.

So this great version (will become 8.0 one day...), will be even greater with this extra power...

Thanks again!

Limbo: a new Red Hat Linux beta -- processor-specific versions of other packages

Posted Jul 4, 2002 20:29 UTC (Thu) by tjc (guest, #137) [Link] (1 responses)

Won't there be, this time, also 586 versions?

Red Hat includes i586, i686, and Athlon kernels, and an i686 version of glibc. I suspect that the performance improvements that would result from processor-specific versions of other packages would be very small, which is why they don't include them.

Performance aside, they could do it as a marketing ploy targeted at "checklist" customers, but I don't think we should applaud them if they did that.

Limbo: a new Red Hat Linux beta -- processor-specific versions of other packages

Posted Jul 5, 2002 4:19 UTC (Fri) by smoogen (subscriber, #97) [Link]

Other than a couple of packages (gzip, ssl, and ???) the speed improvements were no more than 10% if you compiled everything for a specific architecture (i686 for the P4). Also realize that i586 optimizations can cause slowdowns on i686 systems.. and dont even get into what happens on an AMD/cyrix/etc cpu. Having i386 with some exceptions (kernel, glibc, and a couple of apps) is the safest for most customers...

Limbo: a new Red Hat Linux beta

Posted Jul 4, 2002 17:35 UTC (Thu) by DeletedUser2436 ((unknown), #2436) [Link]

Could someone please tell me what version of Gnome is included in this beta release? Also, do you have a choice to install the old Apache instead of version 2.X at installation time? Thanks.


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