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An update on openSUSE's strategy searchAn update on openSUSE's strategy searchPosted Sep 16, 2010 17:57 UTC (Thu) by smoogen (subscriber, #97)Parent article: An update on openSUSE's strategy search
I think Debian currently doesn't currently have a problem because it went through all that long ago. A lot of the factional fighting occurred and was solved in the late 1990's and early 2000's... and was usually solved with some group not happy with the overall project direction creating their own "based on Debian" OS. Some survived and some didn't.
So I guess the state is that Fedora and OpenSuSE are reaching the state where Debian was ten years ago :).
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An update on openSUSE's strategy search Posted Sep 16, 2010 20:15 UTC (Thu) by ctg (subscriber, #3459) [Link]
I started using Suse around 6.x or so.
It was a better desktop than redhat, but not too different (rpm based)
and they packaged and were a key user of the project that I was the lead of at the time (although other distros picked it up). It was a nice ego boost to be able to go to the local store and buy a box with your own name in it :)
I think some of those qualities should persist.
High quality
An update on openSUSE's strategy search Posted Sep 16, 2010 22:38 UTC (Thu) by vblum (guest, #1151) [Link]
"High quality
comprehensive desktop and server (in that order) kde works well with foreign repositories (non OSS)"
I absolutely agree. That is why I use Suse.
Not much need to look for a new strategy. Focus on quality. It may just be that the real goal, being the highest quality desktop (and server) distribution is hard and a lot of work, and comparatively thankless. But probably the reasons above are why Suse has a userbase.
An update on openSUSE's strategy search Posted Sep 19, 2010 8:13 UTC (Sun) by thoeme (subscriber, #2871) [Link]
Seconded.
I stopped compiling my own kernels at the beginning of 2.6 and stopped playing with my (home and work) Linux desktops around the same time.
(open)SuSE has given me that for now more than 10 years, so why should I change ?
Thoeme
An update on openSUSE's strategy search Posted Sep 16, 2010 21:39 UTC (Thu) by xtifr (subscriber, #143) [Link]
Also, Debian staked out its ground as a open, community-developed, non-profit, non-beholden distribution long ago. Later community-developed projects have had to answer the question, "why shouldn't I just go with Debian?" There are lots of possible answers to that question (hence projects like Fedora, Gentoo, Arch, Mint, DSL, etc.), but it's still a question that has to be answered.
It's possible that in the not-too-distant future, the success of other community-oriented distros will start to raise questions for Debian, but so far, the momentum of being first/longest-lived and of being the basis for many other distros seems to be carrying them along quite well.
On the other hand, it seems to me that Fedora has established itself pretty well as the "help us guide the direction of the next release of the commercial system you're probably going to end up using at work no matter what you'd personally prefer" system. That seems to be working quite well for them. I'm not entirely sure why it isn't working as well for OpenSUSE, but it may have something to do with the respective degrees of community involvement of the associated commercial systems (Red Hat and Novell).
An update on openSUSE's strategy search Posted Sep 18, 2010 10:10 UTC (Sat) by lab (subscriber, #51153) [Link] To me, Debian has always been about: Quality. Which leads to those other (to me) attractive traits: Stability and reliability. Am now running Debian unstable (through aptosid, fmr. sidux), and I'm continually amazed at how rock solid and stable it is (and fast!). Never could get that experience with other distros; tried, closest was probably Suse. So I've just come to terms with being 'an apt addict', and live happily.
An update on openSUSE's strategy search Posted Sep 18, 2010 16:00 UTC (Sat) by smoogen (subscriber, #97) [Link]
I think every distribution (even Fedora) has been about quality.. I think its that quality is like an art gallery.. someone may rave about Monet and hate Picasso or daVinci ... and someone else love the others and each will argue quite a bit about how each ones quality is better.
An update on openSUSE's strategy search Posted Sep 18, 2010 18:55 UTC (Sat) by lab (subscriber, #51153) [Link] Heh, nice one. Never quite thought about it like that, but I suppose you have a point there.
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