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identica's useful for Free Software community folksidentica's useful for Free Software community folksPosted Sep 13, 2010 23:50 UTC (Mon) by bkuhn (subscriber, #58642)Parent article: The Grumpy Editor's Twitter experience
As a heavy identi.ca user, I admit your criticism of it is probably accurate, but you skip one thing that I believe is true: if you want to be involved with microblogging primarily with people from the Free Software and Open Source world, identi.ca has some very useful and complex discussion about important FLOSS issues.
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identica's useful for Free Software community folks Posted Sep 13, 2010 23:59 UTC (Mon) by corbet (editor, #1) [Link] I was probably too harsh on identi.ca; I really was looking at things based on a very specific application. Clearly there's a lot more to be done with a service like this than talking about whose house is burning down.
identica's useful for Free Software community folks Posted Sep 14, 2010 1:16 UTC (Tue) by Trelane (subscriber, #56877) [Link]
Meh, the criticism seems threefold:
1) spammers are more prevalent. This is *perhaps* true as a percentage of users. This is very worthy of discussion. 2) There aren't enough users (perhaps in the Boulder, CO, USA area) to get the information you were looking for. 3) identi.ca is chasing twitter's taillights.
The first point is very worthy of discussion; I've noticed this myself.
The second point is a natural consequence of the capitalism instability applied to users on web services. The more users you have, the more users you get, and so on. (in capitalism, it's money instead of users).
The third point is difficult. Clearly, twitter was leading identi.ca when identi.ca was first launched (see Miguel's sole Identi.ca posts).
At this point, however, I think twitter's sole advantage is inertia (the captitalism instability). Identi.ca has features that twitter doesn't (e.g. groups, private servers) and few that Identi.ca doesn't (the only one I can think of is lists, and I'm not sure what value that brings. Identi.ca was first with location services.
So the third point is not clear-cut. The second point is clear; identi.ca isn't nearly as big as twitter and that'll necessarily limit what information is available solely on that site (note, however, that it provides some degree of facebook and twitter integration, although I think it's unidirectional broadcast at this point, but it could be bidirectional).
identica's useful for Free Software community folks Posted Sep 29, 2010 21:48 UTC (Wed) by landley (guest, #6789) [Link]
I've never heard the phrase "capitalism instability" before, but you seem to be describing network effects:
identica's useful for Free Software community folks Posted Sep 14, 2010 16:39 UTC (Tue) by FlorianMueller (guest, #32048) [Link]
I tried to follow you but the problem is that @bkuhn on Twitter is someone else (and I use Twitter). By following the other bkuhn, I do get to see messages my contacts address to you, but it doesn't really make sense to follow an unrelated person just for that reason, so I unfollowed him. Too bad the identi.ca/Twitter connection doesn't prevent duplicate user IDs...
identica's useful for Free Software community folks Posted Sep 15, 2010 15:40 UTC (Wed) by bkuhn (subscriber, #58642) [Link]
> Too bad the identi.ca/Twitter connection doesn't prevent duplicate user IDs...
The blame for this issue is 100% Twitter's fault. Twitter refuses to adhere to the Open Microblogging Protocol and therefore there is this username class. @bkuhn on Twitter is quite annoyed about this too, he's emailed me to complain. I've also explained to him that it's completely Twitter's fault and that he should complain to Twitter that they are refusing to collaborate with Open and Free communities. I'm sure the VC-backed Twitter won't care in the least. It's yet another reason why I boycott them.
identica's useful for Free Software community folks Posted Sep 29, 2010 21:58 UTC (Wed) by landley (guest, #6789) [Link]
So twitter invented microblogging, somebody else came along later and copied them and declared their copy a "standard", twitter didn't notice, and this is somehow reprehensible.
I'm not following the logic here. I think identica would have to pass Facebook just to get their _attention_...
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