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There should be a poll, about whether Linus is a Republican or a Democrat :-)
Posted Sep 13, 2010 22:19 UTC (Mon) by yokem_55 (subscriber, #10498)
Posted Sep 14, 2010 10:28 UTC (Tue) by epa (subscriber, #39769)
Posted Sep 13, 2010 23:07 UTC (Mon) by ofranja (subscriber, #11084)
When I think about this, my concept of neutrality and unbiased media coverage gets very twisted. But hey, that's the land of freedom and truth, so they must be doing it right. :-)
This is natural selection...
Posted Sep 14, 2010 7:34 UTC (Tue) by khim (subscriber, #9252)
Posted Sep 14, 2010 8:51 UTC (Tue) by dgm (subscriber, #49227)
Posted Sep 14, 2010 10:13 UTC (Tue) by klbrun (subscriber, #45083)
Posted Sep 14, 2010 14:52 UTC (Tue) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630)
Posted Sep 14, 2010 10:21 UTC (Tue) by nix (subscriber, #2304)
Posted Sep 14, 2010 19:43 UTC (Tue) by bgmarete (subscriber, #47484)
Posted Sep 23, 2010 19:14 UTC (Thu) by pjones (subscriber, #31722)
Posted Sep 13, 2010 23:07 UTC (Mon) by deepfire (subscriber, #26138)
Your suggestion (which I take literally), that his miniscule voting power can somehow outweigh that implicit support -- I think it's plain ridiculous.
The only way I see he could undo the damage, is to vocally oppose the status quo.
However, from my observations Linus does not seem like a political person. Which makes it a saddening paradox.
Posted Sep 13, 2010 23:32 UTC (Mon) by DOT (subscriber, #58786)
Posted Sep 14, 2010 10:22 UTC (Tue) by nix (subscriber, #2304)
Posted Sep 16, 2010 2:57 UTC (Thu) by thedevil (subscriber, #32913)
Posted Sep 17, 2010 17:08 UTC (Fri) by giraffedata (subscriber, #1954)
Posted Sep 13, 2010 23:54 UTC (Mon) by nicooo (guest, #69134)
Posted Sep 14, 2010 0:23 UTC (Tue) by felixfix (subscriber, #242)
The US sure isn't perfect, but hyperbole like yours is just silly and taints real complaints.
Posted Sep 14, 2010 0:39 UTC (Tue) by Trelane (guest, #56877)
Posted Sep 14, 2010 2:28 UTC (Tue) by felixfix (subscriber, #242)
Like I said, hyperbole just taints any kernel (there! back on topic :-) of truth in your argument. There is plenty wrong, but it pales in comparison to the other oppressive nations around the world. If oppressive governments really do worry you, you ought to present the best argument possible, not the silliest.
Posted Sep 14, 2010 4:59 UTC (Tue) by Trelane (guest, #56877)
Posted Sep 14, 2010 10:49 UTC (Tue) by tonyblackwell (subscriber, #43641)
Posted Sep 14, 2010 5:56 UTC (Tue) by bgmarete (subscriber, #47484)
What deepfire said is really a plain fact. One has to have been `educated' in the American system or something very close to it to honestly deny it.
Furthermore, the United States' historical willingness to support or abate mass oppression, both domestic and foreign, is made globally dangerous by its global reach. A typical tinpot dictator can only get hold of so many people.
Posted Sep 14, 2010 10:25 UTC (Tue) by nix (subscriber, #2304)
You might as well blame the UK, half the nasty tinpot states are either ex-UK colonial possessions or the result of bad line-drawing in the departure phase (and we tried to end our empire *neatly*, god only knows what a mess we'd have made if we'd fallen apart unwillingly like most empires do).
Posted Sep 14, 2010 12:34 UTC (Tue) by hppnq (guest, #14462)
We regret ever having given up on New Amsterdam. We may want it back, so we can enforce world peace by requiring our citizens to wear wooden shoes at all times, except indoors. This should drastically reduce the desire to go run around in the desert with heavy artillery.
We will proceed to kindly ask the citizens of New New Amsterdam to spend a certain amount of time per day watching tulips grow, or, if they prefer this, windmills turn. Offenders will be supplied with hallucinatory sedatives. This should suppress even the slightest inclination for going on missions to spread sociopolitical views that will later be found somewhat lacking in substance and coherence, to random foreign nations sitting on large quantities of materials possessing shiny or oily qualities.
We will also require that citizens drop the affected, nasal tone and start getting used to grunting. We feel that the sensation of a properly pronounced 'g' helps improve the quality of our communication by keeping it to a minimum. And frankly, it is getting on our nerves.
Lastly, we would like to stress the importance of a decent paper atlas for looking up places such as "Myanmar" so as to prevent the Google Maps induced class of mistakes that lands unsuspecting citizens in the Mohawk River rather than Amsterdam, Holland.
We recognize that the local powers may not be immediately favourable to our intentions without further encouragement, so as soon as we have hoisted the sails, we will again raid the Medway to get rid of those pesky Britons.
Posted Sep 14, 2010 14:24 UTC (Tue) by michel (subscriber, #10186)
Posted Sep 15, 2010 15:42 UTC (Wed) by Wol (guest, #4433)
Posted Sep 14, 2010 19:56 UTC (Tue) by bgmarete (subscriber, #47484)
Regarding the UK, we in the commonwealth know them well. Let's not start :-)
Posted Sep 14, 2010 2:20 UTC (Tue) by MisterIO (guest, #36192)
Posted Sep 14, 2010 3:33 UTC (Tue) by nicooo (guest, #69134)
You have to consider the size of the population. Though it's still pretty bad in some states, specially Texas.
Posted Sep 14, 2010 16:02 UTC (Tue) by shmget (subscriber, #58347)
SAUDI ARABIA 102+
VIET NAM 19+
NORTH KOREA 15+
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES 1+
SAINT KITTS AND NEVIS 1
Rest of the World : 0
But the point in not the numbers, but the company the US keep.
Posted Sep 14, 2010 16:16 UTC (Tue) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946)
Posted Sep 14, 2010 17:01 UTC (Tue) by MisterIO (guest, #36192)
Posted Sep 14, 2010 17:11 UTC (Tue) by MisterIO (guest, #36192)
Posted Sep 15, 2010 8:11 UTC (Wed) by lacostej (guest, #2760)
Posted Sep 14, 2010 18:27 UTC (Tue) by aleXXX (subscriber, #2742)
Then move to New York or Massachusetts, there capital punishment is declared to be unconstitutional :-)
So, this is a decision of the state, not of the country US.
Beside that, New York is a beautiful state :-)
Posted Sep 16, 2010 3:23 UTC (Thu) by nevets (subscriber, #11875)
Posted Sep 14, 2010 5:08 UTC (Tue) by xav (subscriber, #18536)
Posted Sep 14, 2010 10:22 UTC (Tue) by fb (subscriber, #53265)
Posted Sep 14, 2010 11:29 UTC (Tue) by engla (guest, #47454)
That said, it seems he's buying stocks in a heavily indebted company.
Posted Sep 14, 2010 12:04 UTC (Tue) by fb (subscriber, #53265)
Posted Sep 14, 2010 16:33 UTC (Tue) by alankila (subscriber, #47141)
Posted Sep 14, 2010 11:15 UTC (Tue) by Trelane (guest, #56877)
Posted Sep 17, 2010 17:24 UTC (Fri) by giraffedata (subscriber, #1954)
Posted Sep 14, 2010 14:35 UTC (Tue) by jackb (subscriber, #41909)
Not to say that there's anything good about our situation but at least we we haven't had our freedom to criticize removed via hate crime laws nor do we have trash police going through everyone's garbage. We're also lacking the death penalty for apostasy that some other more oppressive states have.
Posted Sep 14, 2010 19:40 UTC (Tue) by deepfire (subscriber, #26138)
Contrary to whatever U.S. citizens might think, the rest of the world is much more concerned with its extraborder affairs.
1. If it sounds as an insult, this is only because it is so close to being true, at least judging by statements in the thread.
Posted Sep 14, 2010 19:45 UTC (Tue) by corbet (editor, #1)
Posted Sep 14, 2010 22:34 UTC (Tue) by bgmarete (subscriber, #47484)
Citizenship is an inherently political issue. And in an international forum, the politics will be of an international nature, of course :-)
Posted Sep 14, 2010 22:42 UTC (Tue) by corbet (editor, #1)
Are you disagreeing with that?
Posted Sep 16, 2010 19:18 UTC (Thu) by bgmarete (subscriber, #47484)
Posted Sep 14, 2010 14:56 UTC (Tue) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630)
The fact of him willfully pledging allegiance to the by far most oppressive state on this planet...
What universe are you living in? Yes, there are many, many things I don't like about the US government or US policies. But come on! It's in a whole different league compared to the really nasty countries like Saudi Arabia, North Korea, Iran, etc.
The US, for all of its warts, is still a free country. It tends to oppress people outside the US, but is relatively decent to its citizens.
You can see this in the free market of migration. Lots of people emigrate from repressive countries to the US. Very few people leave the US for China, Saudi Arabia, Iran, etc. unless it's for family reasons.
Posted Sep 14, 2010 17:17 UTC (Tue) by Doogie (guest, #59626)
How exactly do you know this? If you are like most people who "know" these countries are "evil", then you learned it through the mainstream press who uncritically report on what politicians and talking heads say. The same press that uncritically reported Saddam Hussein was a direct and immediate threat to the USA.
This is not to say that those are great places to live, but the people who do live there are not inherently evil, they are most likely simply undereducated and misinformed, something that we in the "Civilized West" are increasingly falling for as well.
The world is not black and white, and our treatment of issues around human rights and democracy need to reflect that fact. The same thing needs to be understood by people who knee-jerk anti-American sentiment as well.
It tends to oppress people outside the US...
Posted Sep 14, 2010 17:36 UTC (Tue) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630)
How exactly do you know this?
Because I read and keep myself informed and don't block outside information for ideological reasons. Let's take Saudi Arabia, for instance. There is nothing like the abuses recorded at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_saudi_arabia in the United States. (I'll go out on a limb here and guess that you're a man, because any woman would know for sure that Saudi Arabia is one of the worst places in the world.)
Now look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_north_korea. Do you claim that "Torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment, public executions, extra judicial and arbitrary detention, the absence of due process and the rule of law, imposition of the death penalty for political reasons, the existence of a large number of prison camps and the extensive use of forced labour" are problems in the United States?
This is not to say that those are great places to live, but the people who do live there are not inherently evil
I never said the people were inherently evil. But an Islamic theocracy as in Saudi Arabia is inherently evil. And totalitarian communism as in North Korea is inherently evil. On the other hand, the principles of freedom and democracy upon which the United States was founded are inherently good even if you think the US government has not done a good job living up to those principles.
To put it another way: Saudi Arabia and North Korea have inherently evil systems of government that cannot be made good unless the systems are completely overhauled. The United States has an inherently good system of government that can (alas) be corrupted by bad people.
There's no question that the United States is a far better place to live than most other countries on Earth. The US ranks decently on the press freedom index (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_Freedom_Index) and the freedom house list (http://www.freedomhouse.org/uploads/fiw08launch/FIW08Tables.pdf)
Posted Sep 14, 2010 17:47 UTC (Tue) by corbet (editor, #1)
Posted Sep 15, 2010 19:37 UTC (Wed) by nix (subscriber, #2304)
"No, Redhat tortures more code."
"But Canonical's software imprisonment record is appalling."
Posted Sep 15, 2010 19:43 UTC (Wed) by corbet (editor, #1)
Posted Sep 14, 2010 20:58 UTC (Tue) by sooner (guest, #70116)
USA most popular country?
Posted Sep 16, 2010 13:53 UTC (Thu) by morhippo (subscriber, #334)
Just because most US Americans have not been outside of their own (or god's own?) country and are being fed patriotic news and propaganda all the time does not make the US the most popular country outside of the USA. If you look at the reactions in this international news site, you may notice that many people have a very critical view of the USA and prefer to live elsewhere.
Posted Sep 21, 2010 12:35 UTC (Tue) by nye (guest, #51576)
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