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SCO readies new Linux licensing program (InfoWorld)

SCO readies new Linux licensing program (InfoWorld)

Posted Jul 20, 2003 22:22 UTC (Sun) by pyellman (guest, #4997)
In reply to: SCO readies new Linux licensing program (InfoWorld) by raymondk
Parent article: SCO readies new Linux licensing program (InfoWorld)

Make no mistake about it, this move by SCO, if true, is an attack upon the GPL, an attack which I for one have expected for some time, and especially now following on the heels of the attack on Linux. It is clear that SCO is not alone in this attack on Linux and Free software, that allies such as Microsoft and Sun behind the scenes. Since this action could ultimately result in the first true test of the GPL, both in court and in the court of "public opinion", it is critically important that the Linux/GPL/Free Software community engineer the correct response to this attack.

This attack is not the (perhaps) expected frontal attack, but rather an attempt to engage the open source community, GPL advocates, and business that benefit, in a legal conflict in a setting that will put the GPL and its advocates and beneficiaries at a serious disadvantage.

I do not believe that SCO will be successful in extorting money from other corporations in such a fashion (except perhaps from a select few for PR purposes as mentioned above), but then again, I do not believe that is the intent. The intent, I believe, is to invite exactly the kind of proactive response that has been discussed on this and other forums (fora?).

Under no circumstances should any business or anyone in the Free Software community move to file any kind of injunction or take any proactive action in the courts in response to this provocation. Such a move would play directly into the hands of SCO and its allies, as such a case would of course be brought before a judge with little familiarity with the GPL, but with the case itself case itself carrying significant "political" or "social" overtones which would very well dominate any judge's thinking, and not to the advantage of the GPL. A case brought in such a context could be a disaster.

Contrary to some of what I have read on this and other forums, I do not believe that it is the responsibility of the community or any business to "proactively" defend the GPL. Instead, I believe that the best course of action is to RESPOND to any direct (legal) challenges. As I understand it, the nature of the GPL and any software licensed under it is that you as a challenger must PROVE your right to inhibit or prohibit distribution of said software, generally through direct legal action against another "infringing" corporation or entity, not the other way around. In fact, I think that is basically true of all software licenses. That is, until SCO has proven their case directly against an infringing distributor (or gotten a specific injunction of their own), there is absolutely nothing they can do about the distribution of Linux. And in the outside chance that they do, it will of course then be possible for the community to remove the offending code as soon as it has been revealed, as has been pointed out so many times.

Given the above, I believe that the best response to this latest gambit by SCO and its allies is a ramped up PR capaign. Organizations such as the FSF and other interested parties and corporations need to loudly deliver public reassurances about the truths laid out above, couched to the maximum extent in legal language. In addition, the aforementioned parties should declare their preparedness and optimism about defending the GPL and Linux at the appropriate time, in the appropriate venue -- for example, if SCO were to file for an injunction against the distribution of Linux. At this time Linux is getting more than its share of press, and truth be told, most of it cannot be characterized as hostile. If such organizations and companies were to issue such statements to the press, I am confident that they would be widely disseminated. This would provide the necessary reassurance to corporate and other users of the software that the payment of any extortion money is not necessary.

I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but since this whole affair has started Linus Torvalds has really stepped up the plate in manner I have described above, giving interviews, etc.; he's definitely doing his part. I think that if everyone works together on this, there will eventually be a positive resolution for Linux and the GPL.

Peter Yellman


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SCO readies new Linux licensing program (InfoWorld)

Posted Jul 21, 2003 5:43 UTC (Mon) by ekj (subscriber, #1524) [Link]

You don't need to worry about the GPL. This comes up over and over and over again, "What if a court found the GPL invalid?"

This is ignorant. First, in what way exactly invalid ? The GPL is not a license anyone is forced to accept in the first place. Anyone are perfectly free to not accept the provisions of the GPL.

The thing is, there exists this thing called copyrigth-law. This says that only the copyrigth-owner is entitled to make copies of a work, or to distribute the work.

GPL is only a set of extra permissions with conditions. It in effect says that IF you agree to certain limitations, then you can distribute the software (in original or changed form). If you don't agree, then that's perfectly ok. But then, by pure copyrigth-law, you cannot distribute at all.

People misunderstand this all the time: "If GPL where to be deemed invalid, Microsoft would be free to incorporate parts of Linux in their prorietary OS". Type of comments. This is silly, pure copyrigth-law prevents this.

SCO readies new Linux licensing program (InfoWorld)

Posted Jul 21, 2003 6:36 UTC (Mon) by Ross (subscriber, #4065) [Link]

Exactly. The GPL is actually stonger than most software licenses
because acceptance is not based upon a button click or you use the
software. It is based upon distribution of the software. If you
didn't agree to the license there is nothing which would allow you
to distribute the software. With the more common "by downloading
this software/by using this software/by clicking accept you agree
to the conditions of the license" arrangement, a user could claim
that the purchase of the software had implied a license to use it
or claim some other reason to use it under fair use.

Of course I am not a lawyer, but this is my understanding.
So I too am surprised at the way people continually state that the
GPL is shakey because it is untested. Why don't they say that about
every license?

The other thing which bothers me is the "viral" terminology used by
the supposedly Linux-savvy Slashdot crowd. Is it unreasonable to expect
people to comply with a license when they take code from one program and
insert it into another or when they duplicate and distribute a program?
I don't think so. The fact users are allowed to make and distribute
derivative works at all is an right granted under the GPL which would not
normally exist -- it is not a "viral" burden.

SCO readies new Linux licensing program (InfoWorld)

Posted Jul 21, 2003 15:23 UTC (Mon) by pyellman (guest, #4997) [Link]

>You don't need to worry about the GPL. This comes up over and over and over again, "What if a court found the GPL invalid?"

Nowhere in my post do I make anything approaching such a global statement; the word "invalid" does not appear in my post. However, if you and the following poster believe that (1) the GPL is in no way different from any other software license, and (2) the fact that the GPL has never been tested raises no concerns about when and how that eventuality will be dealt with, then you have some serious blinders on. The point I was making was not that the GPL could be declared "invalid" in one fell swoop, but that it is important the first public "test" of the GPL be a victory, no matter how large or small, in its favor, and conversely, that a negative outcome in any such first test could be uniquely damaging. Keep in mind that you are dealing here with corporations such as Microsoft whose lifeblood is long-term litigation; chipping away at open source and the GPL in the courts is exactly their intent, and getting that first one in their pockets would be significant.

Peter Yellman

SCO readies new Linux licensing program (InfoWorld)

Posted Jul 24, 2003 13:27 UTC (Thu) by cpm (subscriber, #3554) [Link]

I very much agree.

Essentially, once the US dept of justice gave Microsoft a pass in it's
settlement of the anti-trust litigation, a large number of folks felt that MS
would begin attacking the GPL by proxy within the next two years (read now)
and would continue to do so as long as they had the money.

Well, they have the money. The SCO-MicroSoft link is pretty evident This
is an attack on the GPL, and it only benefits MicroSoft and a handful of
top SCO people who will in the end retire from MicroSoft eventually.

This whole thing isn't really about SCO at all. Sure, it's an exit strategy
(pretty good one) for the top SCO shareholders. Once upon a time, this was
called market fraud. But even that is a side-show. The big show is MicroSoft
vs. everybody else -specifically the GPL in this case, and it has been for a very long time.

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