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On stabilityOn stabilityPosted Sep 9, 2010 10:37 UTC (Thu) by nicooo (guest, #69134)In reply to: On stability by fb Parent article: Debian squeezes out Chromium
> When it's the Linux kernel release cycle, the words "release early, release often" come to everyone's mind, and the release speed is something of a lesson to be learned. An achievement of excellence with regards to software development.
The kernel doesn't bundle 17 different libraries.
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On stability Posted Sep 9, 2010 12:14 UTC (Thu) by fb (subscriber, #53265) [Link]
>> When it's the Linux kernel release cycle, the words "release early, release often" come to everyone's mind, and the release speed is something of a lesson to be learned. An achievement of excellence with regards to software development.
> The kernel doesn't bundle 17 different libraries.
How is that related?
As far as I had understood both "roelofs" and "ringerc" were complaining about release speed, the time a release is maintained, and new features bringing new bugs. AFAICT that has nothing to do with bundling of libraries.
On stability Posted Sep 9, 2010 13:29 UTC (Thu) by nicooo (guest, #69134) [Link]
The excuse for bundling libraries was that it helps them release faster.
On stability Posted Sep 9, 2010 15:39 UTC (Thu) by ringerc (subscriber, #3071) [Link]
In truth I really like rapid releases - for desktop software on home machines, and in development tools/libraries. Bugs in software I use myself I can work around or fix, or I can roll back to an older version until the issue is fixed in a later release.
It's only when I have my sysadmin hat on and am responsible for the reliability of a network of machines used by other people that I start to want stability and time to fix things before the next update breaks everything all over again. Even then, I still really like rapid releases ... it's only when they're accompanied by the total abandonment of any support for any older releases that they bug me.
I do think FF and Chrome may be rushing into the future a little *too* fast - not in the sense of improving too rapidly, but in being unwilling to keep a release or two around for at least security fix purposes.
On stability Posted Sep 9, 2010 21:54 UTC (Thu) by roelofs (guest, #2599) [Link] As far as I had understood both "roelofs" and "ringerc" were complaining about release speed, the time a release is maintained, and new features bringing new bugs.Yup. AFAICT that has nothing to do with bundling of libraries. To the extent the bundled libraries are modified, it certainly does. And even where they're not modified, the mere fact that they're additional copies means extra pain when security issues affect (or may affect) them--particularly when the browser version is no longer maintained by upstream. But that discussion is more relevant to an earlier article. Greg
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