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LinuxCon Brazil: Q&A with Linus and Andrew

LinuxCon Brazil: Q&A with Linus and Andrew

Posted Sep 3, 2010 15:20 UTC (Fri) by giraffedata (subscriber, #1954)
In reply to: LinuxCon Brazil: Q&A with Linus and Andrew by MisterIO
Parent article: LinuxCon Brazil: Q&A with Linus and Andrew

Bear in mind that the phrase "same level as Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, and Larry Ellison" in the context of the sentence before it doesn't mean the same level of goodness or respectability. It means the same level of influence.

Well, give them the Nobel prize in economics, but that doesn't say much about their merits in IT.

Astute, but then I didn't see any implication of merits in IT in what Jim said -- he mentioned only influence.

And it was pure puffing. Linus doesn't have even close to the influence of those people. Their money alone, even without their positions, lets them change the world and affect people far more than Linus can.

But giving them credit for their positions, Steve Jobs was (I presume) instrumental in changing the way people listen to recorded music and making tablet computers real. No patch Linus could have rejected would affect the world like that.


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LinuxCon Brazil: Q&A with Linus and Andrew

Posted Sep 5, 2010 22:13 UTC (Sun) by Tet (subscriber, #5433) [Link]

Steve Jobs was (I presume) instrumental in changing the way people listen to recorded music

That's a tough call. The ipod was far from the first such device to market. At best, you could say Jobs popularized the product for the mass market (largely due to good UI design and superior marketing).

LinuxCon Brazil: Q&A with Linus and Andrew

Posted Sep 5, 2010 22:55 UTC (Sun) by giraffedata (subscriber, #1954) [Link]

That's a tough call. The ipod was far from the first such device to market. At best, you could say Jobs popularized the product for the mass market (largely due to good UI design and superior marketing).
Ah, but that's exactly the point I'm trying to make. I'm distinguishing between invention and influence. Whoever made the first stored music player, or the first ten, didn't have much influence. People kept listening to tapes and CDs. Good UI design and superior marketing, if Jobs effected those, make him influential. But even if he had nothing to do with that, merely recognizing the potential and investing Apple money and reputation in building and selling millions of them would make Jobs highly influential.

And the fact that history shows this wasn't a fluke and he could well do it again lets me put Jobs' influence in the present tense.

And that's a level of influence Linus and Andrew simply don't have.

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