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Who's shipping it now?

Who's shipping it now?

Posted Aug 31, 2010 17:51 UTC (Tue) by dowdle (subscriber, #659)
In reply to: Who's shipping it now? by coriordan
Parent article: Hold The Celebrations; H.264 Is Not The Sort Of Free That Matters (ComputerWorld UK)

The only mainstream distro that ships with h.264 support that I know of is Ubuntu... because they have paid for it. I'm not sure exactly how that works or how much they are paying.

Red Hat and Fedora do NOT ship with h.264 support... only webm and ogg and a few other non-patent encumbered codecs... which is a big reason several third-party repos are popular.

I'm not sure about SUSE.

I'm not sure about Debian. h.264 is probably available in their non-free repos but I don't think it ships as part of the install media.

I guess the better answer/question is... anyone who ships with ffmpeg and/or mplayer/mencoder... unless they've stripped out the patented stuff... ships with h.264 support.


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Who's shipping it now?

Posted Aug 31, 2010 17:58 UTC (Tue) by dowdle (subscriber, #659) [Link]

Hmmm, or am I confusing that with mp3 support in Ubuntu?

Who's shipping it now?

Posted Aug 31, 2010 18:09 UTC (Tue) by jspaleta (subscriber, #50639) [Link]

I think if you look closely the license its only for certain OEM partner pre-installs. The h.264 license situation calls for a level of situational awareness that is I doubt most people can achieve without the aid of cutting edge pharmaceutical enhancements to extend their perception into hidden dimensions of reality.

http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Canonical-clarifie... :

"So the rule of thumb is that an arbitrary Ubuntu system does not have a H.264 licence via Canonical, unless it's an OEM system which specifically lists the H.264 licence in its documentation or marketing materials."

Can anyone point to an existing Ubuntu pre-install OEM which goes out of its way to list H.264 license compliance in its marketing or docs?

-jef

Who's shipping it now?

Posted Sep 1, 2010 12:50 UTC (Wed) by dgm (subscriber, #49227) [Link]

I could find nothing in the materials that came with my Dell Latitude, nor in the Dell's site.

Who's shipping it now?

Posted Aug 31, 2010 18:36 UTC (Tue) by foom (subscriber, #14868) [Link]

Debian ships all decoders that are part of ffmpeg upstream in the main repository.

From /usr/share/doc/libavcodec52/README.Debian.gz:

Currently the following video encoders are disabled in the ffmpeg package: H263, H264, MPEG2 video, MPEG4 and MS-MPEG4. No *decoders* are disabled in any the ffmpeg package!

Who's shipping it now?

Posted Aug 31, 2010 20:01 UTC (Tue) by coriordan (guest, #7544) [Link]

Debian (my distro of choice) is safer than most distros since there's no wealthy organisation to sue, that's why it's probably more relevant to look at "commercial" distros.

Debian ships all of FFmpeg

Posted Sep 1, 2010 1:45 UTC (Wed) by DonDiego (subscriber, #24141) [Link]

Debian no longer strips out any encoders. Uncrippled packages have been uploaded to unstable a short while back before the freeze, so they will appear in the next stable release.

Debian ships all of FFmpeg

Posted Sep 1, 2010 7:34 UTC (Wed) by patrick_g (subscriber, #44470) [Link]

Are you sure about that ? No need to add the Debian Multimedia repository in the sources.list ?

Debian ships all of FFmpeg

Posted Sep 1, 2010 12:01 UTC (Wed) by DonDiego (subscriber, #24141) [Link]

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