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There is more than one cult here.There is more than one cult here.Posted Aug 25, 2010 20:43 UTC (Wed) by foom (subscriber, #14868)In reply to: There is more than one cult here. by dskoll Parent article: EFF: Apple seeking to patent spyware
> Yes, of course. However, it's my opinion that Apple has swung so far to the dark side that it's a contradiction to claim to be a FOSS advocate and to purchase Apple products.
Many people still have mac laptops from before Apple swung so far over to the dark side. Back when they were just a company which created some closed source software and some open source software.
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When did Apple go rotten? Posted Aug 25, 2010 21:55 UTC (Wed) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630) [Link] Interesting. When do you reckon Apple swung over to the dark side? I think it was when the iPhone came out, which would have been in early 2007. (Actually, they'd been moving darkward for some time before that, but the iPhone developer rules made it starkly clear.) I see many Mac notebooks at FOSS conferences that look younger than 3.5 years old.
When did Apple go rotten? Posted Aug 26, 2010 0:26 UTC (Thu) by foom (subscriber, #14868) [Link]
I'd say somewhere around mid-2008, when iPhone 3G / OS 2.0 came out, with the restrictive rules. Remember: the original iPhone didn't allow additional apps *at all* beyond what it shipped with. Everyone was expected to write webapps, which of course don't have restrictions on what they do.
And even then, it was somewhat possible to sort of justify it to yourself based on "it's just a phone, whatever, and you know, carriers are evil and stuff they had to, SRSLY!!". But now they've expanded the death grip onto a tablet device (and IMO likely will try to expand it further), I think it's a lot harder to make such a justification.
When did Apple go rotten? Posted Aug 28, 2010 2:06 UTC (Sat) by AndreE (subscriber, #60148) [Link]
How about iPod/iTunes and their "Fairplay" DRM rubbish.
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