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Common senseCommon sensePosted Aug 20, 2010 15:04 UTC (Fri) by rebentisch (guest, #69660)In reply to: Common sense by FlorianMueller Parent article: Oracle sues Google over use of Java in Android (ars technica)
When was the TH set up? I don't know the exact date, but I found this on their 'About' page: Roger Bowler, Co-founder Roger created the Hercules mainframe emulator in 1999. He lives in Paris, France where he works as a senior mainframe developer and z systems operator. He serves as the companys technical visionary and its liaison with the Hercules open source project.You see what I mean, you try to mix H and TH up. Hercules is software from 1999. TurboHercules is a French company. I tried to look up TurboHercules.com in archive.org, no entry. You hardly find entries about Turbohercules before 2010. When you look carefully you find this: http://www.linkedin.com/companies/turbohercules Founded in 2009. The site also claims a link of the company to http://www.syspertec.com/ - Company TH is registered and requests an operating system license from I.B.M., then files an antitrust complaint against big blue.
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Common sense Posted Aug 20, 2010 16:51 UTC (Fri) by FlorianMueller (subscriber, #32048) [Link] you try to mix H and TH up. Hercules is software from 1999. TurboHercules is a French company. It's not me conflating the issues, it's a problem with others trying to artifically separate them. TurboHercules, an undertaking according to EU law, lodged the complaint. But what IBM does affects the Hercules open source project just to the same extent. TurboHercules's software is 100% the Hercules open source project. IBM doesn't allow the execution of z/OS on Hercules regardless of whether TurboHercules is involved or not. IBM claimed patent infringement related to the emulator, and the emulator is the open source project and nothing else. I tried to look up TurboHercules.com in archive.org, no entry. You hardly find entries about Turbohercules before 2010. I firstly saw the webiste last year. Also, their first letter went to IBM in July 2009. But the antitrust complaint was filed in March 2010. So we talk about them having tried for eight months to resolve this amicably with IBM. Quite a lot of patience. You made a very strong claim: you said and never retracted that it's a "staged" drama. But you don't back up a strong claim with strong facts. All you talk about is when they were founded -- undoubtedly in 2009 at the latest given they wrote their first letter to IBM on company stationery in July 2009. The history of the open source project -- since IBM doesn't treat that one any better than it treats the TH company and since such companies are essential parts of the FOSS ecosystem (and fully respected unter free software and open source rules) -- is definitely important. Monty started MySQL's development in the 1980s, first released it publicly in the mid 1990's, and founded MySQL AB finally in 2001. So there's nothing unusual about the TH company being founded -- by its Monty equivalent -- many years after the FOSS project. In TH's case, it makes particular sense because of something I explained before: ever more powerful Intel-based hardware has meanwhile enabled the system to master pretty significant workloads.
Common sense Posted Sep 3, 2010 0:07 UTC (Fri) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]
Does nobody know how to use whois anymore?
Creation Date: 18-Feb-2009
It is unlikely that the company existed much before that, given that they are in a field where a website is de rigeur.
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