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Other thoughts on Oracle

Posted Aug 17, 2010 20:36 UTC (Tue) by jonabbey (subscriber, #2736)
In reply to: Other thoughts on Oracle by rfunk
Parent article: A very grumpy editor's thoughts on Oracle

"I doubt that Oracle cares whether the FOSS community abandons Java, since the FOSS community (unlike the enterprise world) never really embraced Java very much. Google itself is pretty tied to Java though."

Eh? You mean aside from most Apache Foundation projects (Abdera, ActiveMQ, Ant, Archiva, and Avro, just to list the ones that start with 'A'), JBoss, JRuby, Jython, Clojure, SWT, Eclipse, Spring, Scala, iText, ANTLR, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc.?

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Posted Aug 18, 2010 2:10 UTC (Wed) by butlerm (subscriber, #13312) [Link]

How many of those are installed on an average Linux box? Approximately none of them - no disrespect intended.

Other thoughts on Oracle

Posted Aug 18, 2010 4:27 UTC (Wed) by jonabbey (subscriber, #2736) [Link]

That would depend on what you think the average Linux box is doing. If you think the average Linux box is acting as a desktop system, perhaps not.

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Posted Aug 18, 2010 10:07 UTC (Wed) by mpr22 (subscriber, #60784) [Link]

I think the mode for Linux boxes is "embedded/device"; probably the median as well. The mean probably can't be usefully defined in this context.

Other thoughts on Oracle

Posted Aug 18, 2010 6:23 UTC (Wed) by nim-nim (subscriber, #34454) [Link]

It is not dangerous at at all for Oracle to anger the Apache community. One of its fundamental values is that business is a necessary evil, and we need to be nice with it (hence the permissiveness of Apache license: it does not require that stuff is kept open source, it hopes businesses will be so nice as to contribute to the open source version and not fork it in closed products).

SUN has been at odds with Apache for years (over Harmony and the TCK, over the dumping of Tomcat as reference J2EE implementation for Glassfish, etc) and apart from some sabre rattling from the Apache foundation every once in a while what did it ever cost them?

What *is* dangerous is to anger the copyleft crowd, because it does not care about corporations liking it or not, stuff which is copyleft must stay copyleft there are no choices in the matter.