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Illumos: new hope for the OpenSolaris community?

Illumos: new hope for the OpenSolaris community?

Posted Aug 12, 2010 12:29 UTC (Thu) by ctwise (subscriber, #10952)
Parent article: Illumos: new hope for the OpenSolaris community?

Based on yesterday's roadmap from Oracle it looks like Illumos will have to become a fork. Oracle is apparently making all new development proprietary. So whether Illumos wants to fork or not, they become a fork the instant Oracle makes their next release.

If the Illumos developers truly believe that the Solaris kernel offers something that the Linux kernel does not, then they should be prepared to take on the entire kernel development process.


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Illumos: new hope for the OpenSolaris community?

Posted Aug 16, 2010 7:48 UTC (Mon) by hein.zelle (guest, #33324) [Link]

Could anybody summarize what it is that makes opensolaris worth maintaining in this situation, e.g. compared to linux as an alternative?

I hardly know solaris apart from working on a sun mainframe for some time. Are there things opensolaris is particularly good at? Is it a matter of familiarity that makes people want to use that system? Other technical or usage merits? Available software that somehow can't work on linux or alternatives?

Illumos: new hope for the OpenSolaris community?

Posted Aug 16, 2010 9:35 UTC (Mon) by CChittleborough (subscriber, #60775) [Link]

OpenSolaris has some really nice features, including:
- ZFS, an advanced file system with an integrated storage manager
- DTrace, a universal tracing tool
- Doors, the best IPC facility out there for Unix/Linux
- Service Management Facility
- Solaris Containers
(Wikipedia has articles about all of these. The article about Doors is named "Doors (computing)". Disclosure: I started that article.)

I'm not sure about SMF, but IMO the other items in that list are better than their Linux equivalents (at least for now -- when btrfs is officially released, I expect it to outshine ZFS).

Features like these are aimed at people running high-end servers, not desktops. If you ever have to use Solaris, as opposed to administering it, the first thing to do is install the Gnu userland utilities.

Illumos: new hope for the OpenSolaris community?

Posted Aug 16, 2010 20:52 UTC (Mon) by hein.zelle (guest, #33324) [Link]

Thanks. I forgot about ZFS, should have thought of that with all the btrfs talk. I'll take a look at the other points.

> Features like these are aimed at people running high-end servers, not
> desktops. If you ever have to use Solaris, as opposed to administering
> it, the first thing to do is install the Gnu userland utilities.

That's indeed what I remember doing when I was working on that Sun machine - notably the file utils, tar and find.

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