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GUADEC: A message from the release teamGUADEC: A message from the release teamPosted Aug 5, 2010 13:03 UTC (Thu) by sorpigal (subscriber, #36106)Parent article: GUADEC: A message from the release team
Lessons Microsoft can teach us that we still haven't learned: Platforms are important.
The problem with getting rid of applets isn't so much that applets are so useful as it is that stuff that worked in GNOME 2.x will just stop working in 3.x. Microsoft's 'platform' may be a maze of half-broken crap and shims for legacy support, but on the other hand everything that actually worked tends to stay working. So applets don't support some awesome GNOME Shell vision? So what! Grandfather them in, mark them as deprecated and move on. If it turns out that the new way really is superior people will port (in their own good time) and meanwhile everything compiles and users can still get to the functionality to which they have grown accustomed.
When a third party program that used to work in an old release doesn't work in a new release I call it a regression and I blame GNOME, not the third party.
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GUADEC: A message from the release team Posted Aug 5, 2010 15:24 UTC (Thu) by me@jasonclinton.com (subscriber, #52701) [Link]
> So applets don't support some awesome GNOME Shell vision? So what! Grandfather them in, mark them as deprecated and move on.
That is EXACTLY what the release team has done. Please actually read the article before commenting.
GUADEC: A message from the release team Posted Aug 5, 2010 19:14 UTC (Thu) by foom (subscriber, #14868) [Link]
Not really...you have the choice of:
1) Complete old shell UI, including applet support. 2) New shell UI without support for applets.
Grandfathering them in and marking them as deprecated would be to add support for them to the new UI but discouraging their use.
GUADEC: A message from the release team Posted Aug 6, 2010 7:51 UTC (Fri) by Darkmere (subscriber, #53695) [Link]
Actually, that is a mess to promote such lovely hacks as the Windows 7 auto-hiding icons as the "blessed" solution. Running programs in programs with the process model that panel applets have will not really be supported since that particular breed of COM-like objects are being discontinued.
Keeping the shim would mean that you would need to retain the whole thing indefinitely.
The good part however, is that your beloved and much needed classical panel will still be there, and will be what you have unless you have shiney 3D-like accelerated graphics on your computer. It will be maintained and supported.
GUADEC: A message from the release team Posted Aug 6, 2010 17:01 UTC (Fri) by bkw1a (subscriber, #4101) [Link]
What I care about is whether old binaries, compiled under an older version of Gnome, will run without modification under the new Gnome. Is this the case?
GUADEC: A message from the release team Posted Aug 9, 2010 9:18 UTC (Mon) by dgm (subscriber, #49227) [Link]
Excellent point.
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