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GUADEC: Danny O'Brien on privacy, encryption, and the desktopGUADEC: Danny O'Brien on privacy, encryption, and the desktopPosted Aug 5, 2010 7:52 UTC (Thu) by gmaxwell (subscriber, #30048)In reply to: GUADEC: Danny O'Brien on privacy, encryption, and the desktop by drag Parent article: GUADEC: Danny O'Brien on privacy, encryption, and the desktop
Not just NSLs: http://blogs.forbes.com/firewall/2010/08/01/stealthy-gove...
Seems some crazy people have applied bush administration style thinking to the wiretap laws and decided that it's possible for you to wave your right to privacy in the provider's TOS No NSLs required, as far as I can tell their legal reasoning would even allow them to sell your private data to your enemies/competitors for monetary gain.
Additionally, many "cloud computing" services may not enjoy stored communications act http://www.georgetownlawjournal.com/issues/pdf/98-4/Robis...
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GUADEC: Danny O'Brien on privacy, encryption, and the desktop Posted Aug 5, 2010 9:14 UTC (Thu) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]
bush administration... that's funny because it's Obama that is pushing it now. Shouldn't you be calling it Obama Administration-style? Things are just getting worse no matter what the voting public does.
But this is not the government agency, it's just one business sharing information with another. Different rules. They cannot use the threat of force to compel corporations to cooperate like the government can, but they can probably get stuff that would be troublesome for the government to do easily legally.
Think about the difference between a P.I. vs a Cop.
I guess it's time we take a closer look at those EULAs for our ISPs.
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on a side note:
If anybody tells you that if you just cooperate with the government and not to worry because they won't throw you in jail... they are lying to you. Often you have no choice but to cooperate since like all the other amendments in the bill of rights the government has been working very hard to eliminate the positive effects of the 5th amendment, but regardless: Get a lawyer first.
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For people that are curious more about this phenomena the The Washington Post has done a very good investigative journalism to document the extent at which the government has gone to monitor and survey it's own citizens. The vast majority of the money is getting funneled into private contractors... If you want to get rich quick: Join the FBI for a couple years, drop out, and then create your own private investigative firm and get a contract with the government. Very lucrative.
GUADEC: Danny O'Brien on privacy, encryption, and the desktop Posted Aug 6, 2010 21:23 UTC (Fri) by spender (subscriber, #23067) [Link]
That Forbes article should be taken with a grain of salt. The following posts and comments should help illuminate the situation a bit:
http://taosecurity.blogspot.com/2010/08/project-vigilant-... http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/cx2t8/iama_voluntee... (check out the Forbes journalist asking on reddit for input; that's quality)
I don't mean to devalue your point when applied to the existence of private companies who may be engaging in the same or similar behavior, I'm just speaking to this specific instance.
-Brad
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