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Neary: GNOME CensusNeary: GNOME CensusPosted Jul 28, 2010 22:07 UTC (Wed) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946)In reply to: Neary: GNOME Census by gouldtj Parent article: Neary: GNOME Census
Ted Gould,
Your attempt to paint it as merely a Fedora or Red Hat conflict with Canonical which is certainly ignoring the larger issues at stake here. The debates in desktop-devel list were technical in nature. GNOME Shell has no support for applets and a proposal to include a applet at that point is obviously going nowhere and besides the decision was made by the release engineering team and unless you are going to accuse them of partisanship, you have to accept the rejection and justification for it.
In the future, I would suggest bringing up ideas and implementation earlier to the upstream communities in question rather than as a finished product after doing the distribution specific integration. Otherwise, all the divergence is going to come back and bite sooner or latter.
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Neary: GNOME Census Posted Jul 29, 2010 8:51 UTC (Thu) by rhertzog (subscriber, #4671) [Link]
The lack of applet support in Gnome-Shell is a problem. How are we supposed to use hamster in Gnome 3.0 for example ?
So it's difficult to criticize someone else doing things that need to ship now because they don't integrate into something that's not even fully designed and that has not shown how it's going to integrate everything that already exists.
Neary: GNOME Census Posted Jul 29, 2010 9:01 UTC (Thu) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]
GNOME Shell wont have applets and this has been announced and explained a long time back. Regardless of the justification of that decision, it is no surprise to anyone. I don't have a problem with distributions shipping custom applets and patching applications to support a different API but if it is going to be part of an upstream community like GNOME, it requires more upfront discussions or the distribution will have to pay the cost (and reap the benefits) of the divergence.
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