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LiMo and GNOME join forces

The LiMo and GNOME Foundations have announced a new partnership. "Starting immediately, LiMo Foundation will become a member of GNOME Foundation's Advisory Board and GNOME Foundation will become an Industry Liaison Partner for LiMo Foundation. This development represents a natural formalization founded upon the significant use of GNOME Mobile software components within Release 2 and Release 3 of the LiMo Platform."
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LiMo and GNOME join forces

Posted Jul 26, 2010 18:21 UTC (Mon) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]

What has LiMo accomplished so far? Seems they have done nothing at all. Android is overflowing in the market and MeeGo is atleast making some efforts. Where is LiMo?

LiMo and GNOME join forces

Posted Jul 26, 2010 18:25 UTC (Mon) by corbet (editor, #1) [Link]

There are, it is claimed, over 52 LiMo-based handsets out there.

LiMo and GNOME join forces

Posted Jul 27, 2010 5:47 UTC (Tue) by bzk (guest, #69256) [Link]

LiMo seems to be dedicated to lower range device than Android or MeeGo.

Also they didn't try to built brand recognition in the public. It is more a base platform that manufacturers can use to built their own self-branded proprietary interface and applications on top.

It uses open-source software, but it is not fully open-source : "LiMo membership provides for access and influence to the LiMo code base, and also enables distribution of the LiMo platform."
The lower level of membership costs 20 000 $ per year, and for that price you are not allowed to commercialise the OS (because their API is under LiMo Foundation Public License, that reserve commercial use to LiMo Foundation Members)... The commercial use costs 230 000 $ a year...

From their ownwebsite:
"The LiMo Platform pragmatically blends open source with proprietary development methodologies."

"While LiMo Foundation is an independent, non-profit organization, it is not an "Open Source" community in the traditional sense of the term."

"The core of the LiMo Platform (e.g. non differentiating technologies) is offered under Open Source license or under the Foundation Public license, a copyleft license adapted to LiMo's collaborative nature, and the LiMo APIs are offered under the Foundation API license."

The only aspect in which LiMo is more open than Android or MeeGo is that there is no firm with special right on the direction taken by the foundation. All the firms that pays are threaded the same. It is a kind of censitary democracy system.

LiMo and GNOME join forces

Posted Jul 27, 2010 6:20 UTC (Tue) by bzk (guest, #69256) [Link]

It may be the continuation of "GTK vs Qt" through "LiMo vs MeeGo",with a third contendant in Android... More endless flameware to come in the mobile space ?

LiMo and GNOME join forces

Posted Jul 27, 2010 7:14 UTC (Tue) by tzafrir (subscriber, #11501) [Link]

I asked it in the previous "sad state of Android tablets" discussion, but it was not answered, so I'll ask here:

what's the state of "GPL enforcement" with those devices? Any of those provide full kernel? Boot loader (if a boot loader is based on uboot or whatever)? GCC patches? busybox? Anything else? Are they any better than the "Android black hole" mentioned there in that sense?

LiMo and GNOME join forces

Posted Jul 27, 2010 11:41 UTC (Tue) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239) [Link]

The phone I rented while I was in Japan turned out to be LIMO-based. I grabbed the source out of curiosity - it was easy enough, although the download site wanted the phone's serial number before it'd give me the source which I believe is strictly a violation of 3(b). My recollection is that I got full kernel source and toolchain, but discovering that it was derived from 2.4.18 left me pretty uninterested in going any further.

LiMo and GNOME join forces

Posted Jul 27, 2010 16:45 UTC (Tue) by bzk (guest, #69256) [Link]

The open source components of LiMo are there :
http://opensource.limofoundation.org/index.php/limo-open-...

LiMo and GNOME join forces

Posted Jul 27, 2010 17:01 UTC (Tue) by tzafrir (subscriber, #11501) [Link]

Though this does not seem to include the kernel and toolchain.

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