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Copyright abolitionists

Posted Jun 27, 2010 22:03 UTC (Sun) by Wol (guest, #4433)
In reply to: Copyright abolitionists by stumbles
Parent article: ASCAP Declares War on Free Culture (ZeroPaid)

So what did artists do BEFORE COPYRIGHT EXISTED ?

Cheers,
Wol


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Copyright abolitionists

Posted Jun 27, 2010 23:02 UTC (Sun) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

There were none.

Also, Shakespeare was a myth.

Copyright abolitionists

Posted Jun 28, 2010 7:47 UTC (Mon) by boudewijn (subscriber, #14185) [Link]

they depended on patronage, mostly.

Copyright abolitionists

Posted Jun 28, 2010 13:31 UTC (Mon) by Trelane (subscriber, #56877) [Link]

sounds a lot like science now.

Copyright abolitionists

Posted Jun 29, 2010 15:17 UTC (Tue) by Hanno (guest, #41730) [Link]

I'd rather compare it to today's business of opera, ballet and most of classical music.

Copyright abolitionists

Posted Jun 29, 2010 16:45 UTC (Tue) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

All of which (especially classical music) are being devastated by the copyright maximalists, as well, with orchestras now being told they have to pay per-performance royalties to modern-day *printers* of works arranged in the 19th century and composed long before because they can now be considered to have the copyright in some ridiculous nebulous sense.

Copyright really will never expire as long as these people have a say in it.

Copyright abolitionists

Posted Jul 3, 2010 5:06 UTC (Sat) by pjm (subscriber, #2080) [Link]

I don't think the 19th C music example is not as daft as it first appears. Everyone's still free to copy the original 19th century score, or copy 19th century copies of the original score. If you choose to pay the printer, then it's because the printer is providing a valuable service.

Stallman would presumably say that the wrong is not that you have to pay to get a copy of the music, but that (depending on the license the printer grants) you're forbidden from sharing the music.

As with software, it's very difficult to get the law changed, and it's hard to know what the overall effect on society a given change would have.

If you want to be free to copy or perform music or software, then the practical solution is the same as with software and books: copy a 19th century score yourself (or compose music yourself), make it freely available to others, and encourage others to do the same. If Project Gutenberg and similar projects are practical, then musical equivalents should be all the more so.

Copyright abolitionists

Posted Jul 7, 2010 15:31 UTC (Wed) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

Paying the printer for doing the printing, yes. But paying the printer *per-performance royalties* is plainly not in the original spirit of copyright at all: printing something out of copyright does not involve creative work (certainly not more than printing something which is not out of copyright, which would not give the printer per-performance royalties).

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