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Thunderbird 3.1 has been released

From:  Mark Banner <mbanner-AT-mozillamessaging.com>
To:  announce-AT-lists.mozilla.org
Subject:  Thunderbird 3.1 is now available for download
Date:  Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:37:39 +0100
Message-ID:  <4C23B403.7020704@mozillamessaging.com>
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Mozilla Messaging is proud to announce that Thunderbird 3.1 is now 
available for download from

http://www.getthunderbird.com/

Thunderbird 3.1, based on the Gecko 1.9.2 platform, was built by a 
community of passionate contributors, experienced developers, security 
experts, localization and support communities, and thousands of active 
testers.

Some of the new features:

     New Quick Filter toolbar
     New Migration Assistant
     Saved Files Manager
     Several fixes to improve upgrading from Thunderbird 2
     Several design improvements and corrections to the interface
     Stability, memory, and password handling improvements

As always Thunderbird 3.1 is available as a free download:

http://www.getthunderbird.com/

Thunderbird 3.1 is also available in 46 languages - get your local version:

http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/all.html

We encourage developers to read the Thunderbird 3.1 for Developers 
article on the Mozilla Developer Center.

https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Thunderbird_3.1_for_deve...
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Thunderbird 3.1 has been released

Posted Jun 24, 2010 22:38 UTC (Thu) by kpfleming (subscriber, #23250) [Link]

I'm using Thunderbird 3.0.4 on Ubuntu Lucid Lynx and it has the attachment reminder feature already. It's handy too :-)

Thunderbird 3.1 has been released

Posted Jun 24, 2010 22:39 UTC (Thu) by NightMonkey (subscriber, #23051) [Link]

Keep up the good work, Mozilla devs! I hope more work will be done on calendaring. While I'm very happy to run Thunderbird on Linux myself, and recommend it to replace non-Exchange'd Outlook, the Outlook/Exchange MAPI juggernaut still has its steely grip on some of my IT clients, and calendaring is one of the main reasons.

Cheers!

SyncML for contacts/calendar syncing

Posted Jun 25, 2010 8:20 UTC (Fri) by Cato (subscriber, #7643) [Link]

You might want to look at SyncML which has clients for many PC/Mac/Linux application as well as mobile devices, and covers contacts and calendar - there are various hosted and on-premise options for SyncML. Once those are covered, IMAP should be able to handle the Outlook email, though Outlook is not a great IMAP client.

http://lwn.net/Articles/326820/ - Review of SyncML solutions

http://lwn.net/Articles/333223/ - SyncEvolution article

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site%3Alifehacker.com+sy...

ScheduleWorld and My Funambol are interesting hosted services. One trend appears to be moving Outlook users to Gmail or Google Apps, at which point there are more options for client applications and mobile phones.

Thunderbird 3.1 has been released

Posted Jun 25, 2010 0:45 UTC (Fri) by ncm (subscriber, #165) [Link]

I tried Thunderbird a few weeks back, and while it was possible to tag a message, it wasn't possible to do anything useful with tags. What I wanted was a sort of virtual folder or mailbox that held the results of filtering the inbox with an expression involving tag values. Has there been any work on this sort of thing?

Thunderbird 3.1 has been released

Posted Jun 25, 2010 2:52 UTC (Fri) by raf (guest, #35151) [Link]

File → New → Saved Search (then search by tag), but it would be nicer if that was done automatically, à la Gmail.

Thunderbird 3.1 has been released

Posted Jun 25, 2010 2:58 UTC (Fri) by ccurtis (guest, #49713) [Link]

I haven't seen the new tag system, but I have filed a bug requesting something similar, albeit a bit more sophisticated. Apparently my writeup is unintelligible. :-(

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=562050

Thunderbird 3.1 has been released

Posted Jun 25, 2010 0:46 UTC (Fri) by SEJeff (subscriber, #51588) [Link]

Hopefully mozilla will reach out to the openchange.org guys and get a fully working MAPI plugin for tbird. Gnome's evolution has native Exchange server support now thanks to the mapi plugin. It is sad too, because Thunderbird is a much nicer MUA in my opinion.

For those that want to whine about Exchange, don't bother, some of us are stuck with it for work email / calendaring.

Thunderbird 3.1 has been released

Posted Jul 1, 2010 22:46 UTC (Thu) by pspinler (subscriber, #2922) [Link]

Unfortunately, it looks like openchange and t-bird are license incompatible (gplv3 v. mpl). A darn shame, too, since I'd also really really like to see this.

Does anyone know what the legal status of t-bird plug ins are? Legally, could I write a t-bird mapi plugin with a gplv3 license? Technically, does the t-bird plugin api have enough functionality to make a mail provider plugin?

-- Pat

Thunderbird 3.1 has been released

Posted Jul 2, 2010 5:15 UTC (Fri) by SEJeff (subscriber, #51588) [Link]

Thats a shame too. Perhaps the openchange team would grant a licensing exemption for Mozilla. Doubtful, but not unprecedented if they ask nicely.

Thunderbird 3.1 has been released

Posted Jun 25, 2010 10:41 UTC (Fri) by rmano (subscriber, #49886) [Link]

Nice. Anyone know if they *finally* fixed the three year old bug with drag and drop attachment?

https://bugs.launchpad.net/thunderbird/+bug/151162

And yes, I concur with much of the comment here: the biggest problem in using TB as my only email client, and to get rid of Windows althogheter, is the lack of a reliable client for Exchange calendaring. And a question: do the evolution mapi plugin works with mail/calendar with exchange 2007? Last I checked it worked only with the 2003 version. I am an user of ScheduleWorld and, while most of time it works, it is not reliable. Lots of duplicate events especially in periodical-with-exception kind, when used in two-way sync mode.

Thanks!

Thunderbird 3.1 has been released

Posted Jun 25, 2010 13:45 UTC (Fri) by jrn (subscriber, #64214) [Link]

> Nice. Anyone know if they *finally* fixed the three year old bug with drag and drop attachment?

Uh, you pointed to the link which should answer your question:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377621

If you grok Mozilla’s particular style of C++, I suspect that page should have adequate hints to finish the job.

Re: Biggest lack

Posted Jun 25, 2010 19:23 UTC (Fri) by bucky (guest, #53055) [Link]

Actually, I think the biggest lack is any provision for any shared read/write address book. Full stop.

Lightning has CalDav support. It's not the same as an Exchange calendar, but you could make a case for it in an organization of modest size.

Non-writable shared address books, though, is a complete show-stopper.

Re: Biggest lack

Posted Jun 26, 2010 8:43 UTC (Sat) by Cato (subscriber, #7643) [Link]

Something of a workaround might be to use ScheduleWorld or similar - it uses SyncML to sync the Thunderbird contacts and also has an LDAP service, so in theory you could edit a contact, sync to 'publish' via SyncML, then have others access all contacts via LDAP.

It would be much better if there was an LDAP contact editing feature though.

It would also be great to have a 'canned' LDAP setup that supports Thunderbird easily.

Re: Biggest lack

Posted Jun 28, 2010 14:29 UTC (Mon) by TRS-80 (subscriber, #1804) [Link]

I haven't used it, but LdapRW is worth a look. Or, if you're using SOGo, they have an extension to sync addressbooks.

Re: Biggest lack

Posted Jun 29, 2010 8:00 UTC (Tue) by Cato (subscriber, #7643) [Link]

Thanks for the pointers - I'm now using Thunderbird with SyncML (Funambol plugin, required a minor binary hack) to http://memotoo.com/, which has a good set of features and supports almost every client imaginable - Windows, Linux, Mac, smartphones, and also Gmail.com, Facebook, and LinkedIn.

Both Thunderbird and Outlook include in the display name the OU used in the base DN for the LDAP lookup - not sure why, it makes LDAP unusable for me.

Re: Biggest lack

Posted Jun 28, 2010 6:32 UTC (Mon) by Cato (subscriber, #7643) [Link]

Having investigated this further, I think SyncML is the way to go for a shared, editable address book, apart from corporate environments where LDAP setup is justified. LDAP isn't editable by Thunderbird and there are a few annoying features in Thunderbird's LDAP support such as including the group name from the LDAP directory within the display name. There are various SyncML clients for Thunderbird, Outlook, Mac, most smartphones, etc.

Thunderbird 3.1 has been released

Posted Jun 26, 2010 17:10 UTC (Sat) by madscientist (subscriber, #16861) [Link]

Evolution has supported (in theory) Exchange 2007 for a few releases now (I think it was added in either 2.26 or 2.28). There are two exchange backends for Evolution: evolution-exchange, which uses the OWA interface to talk to Exchange. This backend is actually extremely stable and reliable: about the most reliable way I've found to talk to Exchange, INCLUDING lookOut!.

Unfortunately, it only works with Exchange 2003.

The second backend is evolution-mapi. This backend uses the openmapi library to talk directly to Exchange via the native MAPI protocol. It supports Exchange 2007 (not 2010 yet, because openmapi doesn't support it yet IIRC).

Unfortunately, this backend is, for me, so buggy as to be unusable. And, although I've filed many bugs last fall about issues as far as I know they've never been looked at nor attempt made to resolve them, so I can only assume that either (a) no one is working on this plugin, much, or (b) everyone else is happy with it and it's only not working properly for me.

I don't need anything fancy: I need email and calendaring, and support for Global Address List. I don't even need fancy calendaring: just basic free/busy publication, meeting reminders, and meeting setup/reservations.

I've tried DAVMail with Evolution and it just doesn't work well: Evolution's method of handling IMAP mail and Exchange's way of handling mail, even via IMAP, simply don't mesh at all. I get good support for reminders and showing my own calendar via DAVmail, but I cannot seem to get meetings created and see others' free-busy status properly, etc.

Basically I'm stuck with using lookOut! running inside Crossover Linux. It's horrible in so many frustrating ways but, sadly enough, it's the most stable and usable solution available today.

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