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GthumbGthumbPosted Jun 17, 2010 4:35 UTC (Thu) by JoeBuck (subscriber, #2330)In reply to: Gthumb by ncm Parent article: A quick grumpy review of Shotwell I'm still on Fedora 12, and I like gthumb for photos. I've got several machines to deal with, and a mixture of Intel, ATI, and nVidia graphics. If future gthumb requires extensive 3D support to work, it might be necessary to fork the old one if I want to move to Fedora 13 until the graphics situation settles down.
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Gthumb Posted Jun 17, 2010 17:08 UTC (Thu) by yodermk (subscriber, #3803) [Link]
I've used GThumb on Fedora 13. No problem here.
I am also a fan of its simplistic approach, not wanting to "import" anything. And for viewing it's hands down the best I've seen -- keyboard shortcuts that make sense (all the others seem to botch that somehow).
Gthumb Posted Jun 22, 2010 10:58 UTC (Tue) by Yenya (subscriber, #52846) [Link]
The F13 version of gthumb has severe problems:
- no view with "thumbnails on the right" anymore (on widescreen monitor with 3:2 aspect ratio of photos it really hurts)
- "ask before deleting" does not work for me (it still deletes unconditionally, and in Preferences it is unchecked even though I have enabled it before.
- photos are displayed 1:1, i.e. not fitted to the screen size. The "fit to screen size" is reset when I advance to the next image. And it still does not work when the thumbnails are displayed - the "screen size" is computed with the thumbnails area included, so I have to scroll even in the "fit to screen size" mode.
It is a huge step back for me and I am looking for a replacement for gthumb.
Gthumb Posted Jun 22, 2010 11:59 UTC (Tue) by avtechmjc (subscriber, #50477) [Link]
Why would you take the time to complain about these bugs on LWN, but not file bug reports at: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=gthumb ?
The "ask before deleting" bug is real, but has not been reported, for example.
Gthumb Posted Jun 22, 2010 12:14 UTC (Tue) by avtechmjc (subscriber, #50477) [Link]
And I have reported that issue as:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=622386
I don't see any problems with screen zooming, however. What do you have set at Edit > Preferences > Viewer > After loading an image?
Gthumb Posted Jun 22, 2010 15:32 UTC (Tue) by Yenya (subscriber, #52846) [Link]
Well, I have been thinking about eventually reporting those as bugs, but I am less than enthusiastic when it comes to reporting usability bugs, especially after putting an effort to reporting or at least following several GDM > 2.20 usability bugs like the following ones:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433649
which are either mostly ignored by GDM developers, or are closed as WONTFIX or DEFERRED. I think when it comes to usability reports, it is clearly a decision of the development team to make the application look like they want.
Gthumb Posted Jun 22, 2010 15:57 UTC (Tue) by avtechmjc (subscriber, #50477) [Link]
I filed your deletion bug for you (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=622386), and it was fixed within the hour:
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gthumb/commit/?id=8cbde58ed70...
Please do file gThumb bugs (in the upstream bugzilla, not the redhat one). The 2.11.x series is in active development, and feedback is both helpful and necessary.
- Mike
Gthumb Posted Jun 22, 2010 16:03 UTC (Tue) by Yenya (subscriber, #52846) [Link]
Thanks!
I will look into gthumb usability issues after I manage to upgrade my primary workstation to F13 (some time next week). It seems that gthumb developers provide better reaction time and attitude than gdm ones :-)
-Yenya
Gthumb Posted Jun 22, 2010 16:41 UTC (Tue) by avtechmjc (subscriber, #50477) [Link]
gThumb 2.11.x (which is a total rewrite compared to 2.10.x) is now pretty much feature-complete in git master, and a 2.11.4 release should happen "soon".
Fixing bugs and enhancing usability are the current priorities:
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gthumb-list/2010-June/msg0...
- Mike
Gthumb Posted Jun 22, 2010 12:54 UTC (Tue) by corbet (editor, #1) [Link] Add to the list: the "resize" operation defaults to a percentage - every time. Which is silly: who doesn't want to resize to a specific size? Gthumb usability has definitely dropped, even before it stopped working altogether.
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