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Posted Jun 17, 2010 3:49 UTC (Thu) by ncm (subscriber, #165)
Parent article: A quick grumpy review of Shotwell

The latest Debian packaging of gthumb, 2.11.3, doesn't crash, but it lacks essential features found in 2.10.11, so I have held off. The most important missing feature in 2.11, from my standpoint, is a sidebar with thumbnails. Probably Debian should package both under different names, as 2.11 doesn't seem ready for mainstream use yet. The 2.10 version has been eminently usable, for my purposes.

It's nice to see the Grumpy Editor acknowledging gthumb as a photo collection manager, and not just (as had been asserted earlier) a viewer.


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Posted Jun 17, 2010 4:35 UTC (Thu) by JoeBuck (subscriber, #2330) [Link]

I'm still on Fedora 12, and I like gthumb for photos. I've got several machines to deal with, and a mixture of Intel, ATI, and nVidia graphics. If future gthumb requires extensive 3D support to work, it might be necessary to fork the old one if I want to move to Fedora 13 until the graphics situation settles down.

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Posted Jun 17, 2010 17:08 UTC (Thu) by yodermk (subscriber, #3803) [Link]

I've used GThumb on Fedora 13. No problem here.

I am also a fan of its simplistic approach, not wanting to "import" anything. And for viewing it's hands down the best I've seen -- keyboard shortcuts that make sense (all the others seem to botch that somehow).

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Posted Jun 22, 2010 10:58 UTC (Tue) by Yenya (subscriber, #52846) [Link]

The F13 version of gthumb has severe problems:

- no view with "thumbnails on the right" anymore (on widescreen monitor with 3:2 aspect ratio of photos it really hurts)

- "ask before deleting" does not work for me (it still deletes unconditionally, and in Preferences it is unchecked even though I have enabled it before.

- photos are displayed 1:1, i.e. not fitted to the screen size. The "fit to screen size" is reset when I advance to the next image. And it still does not work when the thumbnails are displayed - the "screen size" is computed with the thumbnails area included, so I have to scroll even in the "fit to screen size" mode.

It is a huge step back for me and I am looking for a replacement for gthumb.

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Posted Jun 22, 2010 11:59 UTC (Tue) by avtechmjc (subscriber, #50477) [Link]

Why would you take the time to complain about these bugs on LWN, but not file bug reports at: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=gthumb ?

The "ask before deleting" bug is real, but has not been reported, for example.

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Posted Jun 22, 2010 12:14 UTC (Tue) by avtechmjc (subscriber, #50477) [Link]

And I have reported that issue as:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=622386

I don't see any problems with screen zooming, however. What do you have set at Edit > Preferences > Viewer > After loading an image?

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Posted Jun 22, 2010 15:32 UTC (Tue) by Yenya (subscriber, #52846) [Link]

Well, I have been thinking about eventually reporting those as bugs, but I am less than enthusiastic when it comes to reporting usability bugs, especially after putting an effort to reporting or at least following several GDM > 2.20 usability bugs like the following ones:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433649
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451562
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=444213

which are either mostly ignored by GDM developers, or are closed as WONTFIX or DEFERRED. I think when it comes to usability reports, it is clearly a decision of the development team to make the application look like they want.

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Posted Jun 22, 2010 15:57 UTC (Tue) by avtechmjc (subscriber, #50477) [Link]

I filed your deletion bug for you (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=622386), and it was fixed within the hour:

http://git.gnome.org/browse/gthumb/commit/?id=8cbde58ed70...

Please do file gThumb bugs (in the upstream bugzilla, not the redhat one). The 2.11.x series is in active development, and feedback is both helpful and necessary.

- Mike

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Posted Jun 22, 2010 16:03 UTC (Tue) by Yenya (subscriber, #52846) [Link]

Thanks!

I will look into gthumb usability issues after I manage to upgrade my primary workstation to F13 (some time next week). It seems that gthumb developers provide better reaction time and attitude than gdm ones :-)

-Yenya

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Posted Jun 22, 2010 16:41 UTC (Tue) by avtechmjc (subscriber, #50477) [Link]

gThumb 2.11.x (which is a total rewrite compared to 2.10.x) is now pretty much feature-complete in git master, and a 2.11.4 release should happen "soon".

Fixing bugs and enhancing usability are the current priorities:

http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gthumb-list/2010-June/msg0...

- Mike

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Posted Jun 22, 2010 12:54 UTC (Tue) by corbet (editor, #1) [Link]

Add to the list: the "resize" operation defaults to a percentage - every time. Which is silly: who doesn't want to resize to a specific size? Gthumb usability has definitely dropped, even before it stopped working altogether.

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Posted Jun 17, 2010 19:05 UTC (Thu) by avtechmjc (subscriber, #50477) [Link]

You know about the thumbnail pane (View > Thumbnail Pane, F8) in viewer mode, right?

When an image is open, the other images in the folder are shown in a thumbnail pane below the open image.

- Mike

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