> He would like to see a stronger focus on everyday quality in development projects, starting with broader use of automated test suites
This is certainly one area where Ubuntu could give back to the community. Assign your employees to write test suites for all software you use which already doesn't have a suite. Simple, productive, everyone benefits and you finally have something to show when people criticize you for not contributing code.
Posted Jun 17, 2010 16:57 UTC (Thu) by vonbrand (subscriber, #4458)
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It is anything but "simple" to write a proper test suite for something, plus it is boring detail work. It is really no wonder there are few and between test suites. The more extensive ones I've seen (e.g. for GCC) are mostly collected and cleaned up problem cases.
Mark Shuttleworth at LinuxTag
Posted Jun 20, 2010 20:17 UTC (Sun) by nix (subscriber, #2304)
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It's actually quite easy to write white-box testsuites for parts of systems -- *if you do it when you write the code*. If you do it then, you *know* the edge cases you have to test in your coverage testcase, and you *know* the boundaries you want to wander up to in any fuzz tests -- so it's fairly easy to write them.
What's a total sod is trying to do the same when faced with a bunch of code you wrote ages ago and no longer remember anything about, or that you didn't write at all.
Mark Shuttleworth at LinuxTag
Posted Jun 20, 2010 18:06 UTC (Sun) by jschrod (subscriber, #1646)
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You can be sure that people like jspaleta would still criticize them, because they would find something where they would not contribute _enough_. Just look at generic reports about something and he jumping in with pseudo-questions that are meant to slant Ubuntu and especially Canonical in some way. And sadly, there are enough folks like him in our community.
Joachim (not an Ubuntu user, FWIW)
Mark Shuttleworth at LinuxTag
Posted Jun 22, 2010 13:26 UTC (Tue) by nye (guest, #51576)
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>And sadly, there are enough folks like him in our community.
Sadly, I don't believe there are.
Jef's unwillingness to drink the Kool-Aid, combined with an unusual level of honesty and accuracy, is highly appreciated.
If that attitude were more prevalent, I feel Free Software would seem more appealing to a wider number of users because the community would demonstrate a lesser degree of obviously ludicrous self-delusion.
Mark Shuttleworth at LinuxTag
Posted Jun 25, 2010 18:30 UTC (Fri) by deepfire (subscriber, #26138)
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> Jef's unwillingness to drink the Kool-Aid, combined with an unusual level of honesty and accuracy, is highly appreciated.
Absolutely.
It's always heartening to see people straying off the local maximum chase, that is universal pleasantness, and into some soul searching and inconvenient question asking.
Periods of peaceful and undisturbed focus are important, but so are periods of wider perspective and introspection.