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FSF takes on Apple's App Store over GPL

FSF takes on Apple's App Store over GPL

Posted Jun 11, 2010 16:04 UTC (Fri) by vadim (guest, #35271)
In reply to: FSF takes on Apple's App Store over GPL by Lefty
Parent article: FSF takes on Apple's App Store over GPL

Again, you're still thinking of "world domination". I personally don't care.

It's actually "fine with" me, too: it can only have the effect of increasing the desire of developers-in-general to go with non-GPL alternatives (e.g. clang—which Apple is pushing—and bionic—which Google is pushing—for starts) and to avoid the use of GPL-licensed code if they wish to put their efforts onto a platform—such as the iPhone—where they might actually see wide use.

Sure, Apple can push whatever they want. On my part I'm not interested in anything they make (too closed), and don't work on any Apple specific software. Some of it should build on OS X, but I don't offer support for it.

While is may be "fine" for some people, it's not (in my opinion) at all healthy for the "free software movement". If the software is as "free" as the FSF wants it to be, but no one to speak of uses it (think "The HURD"), would that constitute a "victory"...?

Linux has a large enough userbase for me, so I'm not really worried.

Again, I'm not interested in huge numbers for the numbers' sake. Any usage that goes against the GPL doesn't benefit me and doesn't count, even if that's a million users.

Seems a sort of a Pyrrhic one to me.

I consider it good, or worst case value neutral. My assessment is: Usage according to the GPL is +1, contrary to the GPL is -1 or 0 (depends on why), no usage is 0.

Therefore, in general, a change from infringement to compliance is excellent, and from infringement to non-usage somewhat disappointing but still an improvement.

Since I find all Apple platforms too restrictive to even consider supporting them, usage or lack of it is overall irrelevant. If it happens to work, good, if it doesn't I don't really care.


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FSF takes on Apple's App Store over GPL

Posted Jun 23, 2010 18:50 UTC (Wed) by jospoortvliet (subscriber, #33164) [Link]

Well, than you and Lefty simply have a different pov and goal. I'm more or less on lefty's side here, as I think Free Software is important for the world - to help poorer people, defeat evil companies and protect free speech. For that, FOSS needs to be as big as possible, preferably everywhere. So I'm less and less supportive of the FSF and more and more on the side of the FSFE which is far more practical.

If you just want to hack with some friends on cool stuff and have fun, yes, you're just fine where you are with FOSS and the FSF. If you want to move it forward because you believe it is *important* for the world, FSF is doing you a dis-favor.

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