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Linaro seeks to simplify ARM Linux landscapeLinaro seeks to simplify ARM Linux landscapePosted Jun 10, 2010 23:55 UTC (Thu) by achiang (subscriber, #47297)Parent article: Linaro seeks to simplify ARM Linux landscape
"Canonical will be heavily involved in the effort."
"The Linaro FAQ make[s] it clear that Linaro is not planning on creating a new distribution [...] instead, pitching in on upstream projects to simplify and optimize for ARM systems."
Hopefully this effort will help put to bed the meme that Canonical do not contribute upstream. There's real wood ("tens of millions of dollars") behind this arrow.
/ac, Canonical employee, but not associated with Linaro
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Linaro seeks to simplify ARM Linux landscape Posted Jun 11, 2010 1:15 UTC (Fri) by jspaleta (subscriber, #50639) [Link]
So is that 10 of millions of dollars in the funding of Linaro, Canonical's money or is it mostly money from ARM, Freescale, IBM, Samsung, ST-Ericsson, Texas Instruments or some other Linaro partner. Do you have an accurate detailed record of how much each of those other _profitable_ companies are kicking into the Linaro R&D seedmoney? I haven't seen anything that would suggest that Canonical is the major financial backer. Are you making the claim that the 10 million dollars in Linaro funding is Canonical's contribution and not from the other big guns in the partnership? Can you point me to financial statements that verify that?
Regardless, I look forward to seeing Canonical moving up in the kernel contribution statistic reports in a verifiable commitment to upstreaming the ARM improvements. Canonical can certainly talk the talk. I'm not sure there's much in the way of demonstrative evidence that as an organization they walk the walk often enough.
-jef
Linaro seeks to simplify ARM Linux landscape Posted Jun 11, 2010 2:26 UTC (Fri) by achiang (subscriber, #47297) [Link]
Jef,
Of course I wouldn't reveal private information [financial or otherwise], even if I was privy to it [which I'm not]. Whatever's public is public.
The kernel is obviously not the only upstream project in the world. I think we both realize that.
It's your privilege to hold whatever biases you like, and voice them in whichever manner of tone pleases you. It's my privilege to go look for more productive conversations.
cheers,
Linaro seeks to simplify ARM Linux landscape Posted Jun 11, 2010 3:53 UTC (Fri) by jspaleta (subscriber, #50639) [Link]
Sure more than the kernel... would you care to expound on what upstreams I should be watching more closely with regard to this ARM initiative? We've seen the plumbing layers stats as well in the past... for things like gcc and xorg.
Yes we are both able to be biased. I however am willing to look past bias at focus on verifiable fact. You went to all the trouble to allude that the millions of dollars going into Linaro are Canonical's dollars, and an as such are adequate substitute for actual engineering work. You might was well go the extra step and provide authoritative references which back up your opinion.
-jef
Linaro seeks to simplify ARM Linux landscape Posted Jun 13, 2010 1:22 UTC (Sun) by cjwatson (subscriber, #7322) [Link]
If you're looking for plumbing stats where Canonical features, then you might try grub2, udev, or plymouth (though I can't speak for what Linaro will be doing).
Linaro seeks to simplify ARM Linux landscape Posted Jun 14, 2010 9:55 UTC (Mon) by nye (guest, #51576) [Link]
It seems fairly disingenuous of you to take that attitude immediately after implying - but not stating - that Canonical is providing a multimillion dollar funding effort.
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