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Lots of candidates for the Fedora elections

By Jake Edge
May 19, 2010

It's election season in Fedora-land, with three project board seats and five engineering steering committee (FESCo) seats up for grabs. There is some healthy competition in the races, along with something of a spectrum in the candidates' views. Many of the questions in the candidate questionnaire and IRC town halls have been about the current struggles within the project, which is as it should be—those who are elected will be working to find solutions to those problems.

There are seven candidates for the five FESCo seats: Matthias Clasen, Kevin Fenzi, Justin Forbes, Kyle Martin, Bill Nottingham, Steven Parrish, and Bruno Wolff. All of the names should be familiar to those who follow Fedora, with roughly half of them (four) being Red Hat employees. Nottingham and Fenzi are both running for re-election to FESCo, while current members Seth Vidal, Kevin Kofler, and Dennis Gilmore are not running again. The terms are for two releases—roughly one year—and the nine-member board is elected on a staggered basis (i.e. there will be four members elected around the time of the Fedora 14 release).

The project only elects five of the nine members of the project board, and the Fedora project leader is the chair, which essentially makes it half elected and half appointed by Red Hat. Like FESCo, the seats are held for two releases and roughly half (three this time) are up at any given election. Running for those seats are Larry Cafiero, Tom Callaway, Rex Dieter, Máirín Duffy, John McDonough, and Stephen Smoogen. Two current members, Dennis Gilmore and Mike McGrath, are not running again, while Callaway is running for re-election.

The two appointed seats are announced in a split fashion, one before the election and one after. Fedora project leader Paul Frields has announced that Jon Stanley will take the place of one of the current appointees, John Poelstra or Josh Boyer, for the coming term.

At various points in the recent past, Fedora has wrestled with its identity and package update policy, hall monitoring, handling of Mozilla trademarks, and a general sense that the project is too often descending into unwelcoming flames. FESCo and the board have been involved in trying to resolve those issues, so it is no surprise that many of the questions posed by project members touch on them.

Granting exceptions to the Fedora packaging rules for trademarked packages (like Firefox and Thunderbird) was the first in the questionnaire. In general, the candidates felt that the benefits of using the Mozilla trademarked names outweighed the downsides, though Parrish and Wolff thought otherwise:

Steven Parrish - FESCo: Granting exceptions can open a door you would rather keep closed. As soon as you make an exception for one group you will have a more difficult time in denying similar requests in the future. IMO we should have only unencumbered versions of software in the Fedora repos. Anything else should be in RPMFusion or similar repo.

Bruno Wolff - FESCo: I don't think that packages controlled by trademarks should get permanent exceptions to our packaging rules. I think they need to have a plan to get rid of bundled libraries and to make sure there is a way to quickly apply patches when needed in Fedora. It seems in the particular case noted, there was a communication breakdown, but that in theory a patch could have been applied in reasonable amount of time. But it isn't clear that the causes for the breakdown is fixed.

Personally, I don't see a lot of value to Fedora to being able to use those trademarks and wouldn't have a problem with using alternate names for the packages. But [marketing] isn't my area of expertise and there is a possibility that dropping the trademarks could negatively effect the relationship between our packagers and upstream.

Callaway looked toward a different model for handling the Mozilla trademarks:

Tom Callaway - BOARD: This is a complicated issue. For example, we do not permit others to modify Fedora and still use the Fedora trademarks, so it would seem somewhat hypocritical of us to say that Mozilla isn't allowed to do the same thing. However, when you look at what we've actually done with the Fedora trademark guidelines, we've created acceptable alternatives for people who do want to make that change, specifically, the ability to use the term "Fedora Remix" for modified works.

I would love to see Mozilla to take a similar stance, and work with us to be more flexible about the use of the trademarks (or to provide recognizable alternatives (e.g. "Firefox Remix"). I do think that there is value in those trademarks, especially to users who are entirely unaware of anything beyond "Fedora comes with Firefox". I'm hopeful that we will be able to work out some sort of compromise with Mozilla.

Another question asked for three specific goals a candidate had for their term. Many of the answers touched on ways to make Fedora more welcoming and less acrimonious, but there were other thoughts as well, here are some excerpts:

Bill Nottingham - FESCo:
1. Changing the development culture to be more productive, if at all possible
2. Try to work towards consistent guidelines across packages where possible, instead of 'every developer has their own guidelines' (with respect to ABI stability, updates, and other procedures.)
3. Work to increase the uptake of community testing of Fedora, to catch the bad bugs before they hit our users.

Matthias Clasen - FESCo:
I want to assist in finishing the important changes that are currently underway:

- The autoqa efforts to improve the day-to-day usability of rawhide and the quality of our updates.
- Improving our update experience.
On a more personal level, I want to ensure that the transition to GNOME3 goes smoothly, and that Fedora becomes the premier GNOME3 distribution.

Máirín Duffy - Board:
1 - I want to work together with the Fedora community in establishing a vision for Fedora that we all want to strive towards. In an ideal world, 5 years from now, think about where you'd like Fedora to be. How do you see Fedora being used? Who do you see using Fedora? While there are a lot of differences between different subgroups within the community, I do think we share very similar dreams for Fedora, but it's not something I see us talking about a lot. We tend to get mired down in specific issues and we don't have a visionary roadmap to guide our decisions within those issues. I'd like us to build that vision together, making it easily consumable and spreading it throughout the community. I think the vision could be manifested in a lot of fun ways - comic strips, videos, illustrations. [...]

Stephen Smoogen - BOARD:
A) See about making voting mandatory in certain elections to remain in good standing. I believe that voting is a responsibility and a non-vote is not a 'protest' but a revocations of one's rights. I would want to make it clear that joining Fedora has various responsibilities as much as freedoms. [...]

C) Seeing how to better grow Fedora and Linux into educational schools. We have had strong initiatives in the past to do this, and like any hard task requires a continual effort. I would like to be able to see how I can do this from a board level and help keep things moving so that everything from Elementary to Universities (the American K-20) has a growing Fedora presence.

Some specific packaging goals were also mentioned: Wolff would like to see larger installs available for live images, Clasen and Callaway are interested in making sure the GNOME 3 transition goes smoothly; Callaway also mentioned systemd support as a longer-term goal.

The candidates largely feel that while they are representing the community—and definitely encourage input from the project's members—ultimately, if they were elected, it would be up to them to make their best decisions and not be a "vote-bot", as Clasen put it, for any particular constituency. Some, like McDonough, Cafiero, and Duffy, were more inclined to actively seek out input from the project before making decisions. That may reflect the fact that they are running for the board, which typically makes decisions with a wider impact.

Some of the longest answers were given for the question about "flames/annoyance/anger/frustration within the the Fedora project of late". It is a problem that projects grapple with time and time again, and is the reason behind the Ubuntu code of conduct, the "be excellent to each other" motto for Fedora, along with similar efforts by other projects. All of candidates had thoughts on the causes and possible solutions, here are a few of the responses:

Justin Forbes - FESCo: We are a large community, and as such, there is always a measurable amount of frustration/flaming. It gets more visible or less visible over time, usually more visible when there are process or policy changes. As a member of FESCo, it would be my job to look past the flames and frustration, and keep an eye on the technical issues at hand. If those can address some of the flames, all the better.

Kevin Fenzi - FESCo: I think it's a natural case of a large project picking up some vocal folks/detractors and it seems to come and go in cycles. I think if we all be excellent to each other and show how to behave, the folks who are not doing that will be be ignored or bypassed. In the case of someone causing technical problems I think FESCo could ask them to change approach, or even leave the project, but for social problems it would be more of a Board issue.

Kyle Martin - FESCo: I attribute this to a lack of a coherent direction for the project. Half of the packagers seem to be content making something for their own consumption, whereas the other half believe our direction should be producing a coherent and consistent operating system, as opposed to a collection of packages we collect and ship every six months. I'm not sure what the best way of addressing this, as it reflects a fairly deep schism in the community. It seems no matter what is done, half (obviously it isn't a fifty/fifty split, but it serves the purpose of illustration) the community will be unhappy with either direction, so perhaps more tolerance of the opinions of others with some offline reminders to people when they cross the line would avoid the confrontational and long winded email threads which have been occurring.

John McDonough - BOARD: In terms of reducing acrimony, again, communications and having the data to support a decision presented in a compelling way will certainly go a long way. There is also a lot to be said for setting a proper example. But we also need to establish a process where the more "passionate" contributors can be assisted in seeing that acrimonious comments only hurt their case. The old adage about catching more flies with honey than with vinegar certainly comes to mind. We should develop a process where folks who are taking a counterproductive approach can be quietly mentored and assisted with their interpersonal skills. There are people who are good at that sort of thing, perhaps we need to recruit them. [...]

Rex Dieter - BOARD: Disagreement on some things is inevitable, but when that grows into something bigger like anger and frustration, experience tells me primary causes include feelings of helplessness and a perception of not being heard. Potential solutions include working toward making clearer to our community that they are both empowered to make a difference and that their voices are, in fact, being heard.

The elections themselves take place May 20-26 and all Fedora members are encouraged to vote. Anyone registered in the Fedora account system who has signed the Contributor License Agreement is eligible.

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