Shuttleworth: Ubuntu's Indicator Menus [LWN.net]

Shuttleworth: Ubuntu's Indicator Menus

Posted Apr 22, 2010 22:07 UTC (Thu) by j1mc (guest, #56848)
Parent article: Shuttleworth: Ubuntu's Indicator Menus

I can see the technical reason for switching away from the notification area, and I see how it can be difficult to want to do cool things *now* rather than wait for upstream Gnome to implement what you want, but I wish they had done more to bring this up at the Usability Hackfest. I wonder if they brought up the "buttons on the left," at the hackfest, too. The button situation is another pretty big differentiator between them and upstream Gnome.

Perhaps these examples can be something to keep in mind for later Usability Hackfests (e.g., "Ok, Canonical folks, thanks for your input on items X,Y,Z. Do you have any other changes that you want to get into upstream Gnome in the next year or so that you want to tell us about? Let's make sure to discuss those, too.") I'm not sure how Canonical folks would take to that, as I think they use these changes to differentiate themselves in the FLOSS marketplace.

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Shuttleworth: Ubuntu's Indicator Menus

Posted Apr 24, 2010 0:25 UTC (Sat) by jspaleta (subscriber, #50639) [Link]

The hackfest in question was _hosted_ in Canonical's offices in London.
Canonical had every opportunity to bring up libappindicator for discussion on their own turf.

In fact I'm pretty sure I read that they were going to do exactly that in one of the gnome mailinglists. Ah here it is:

http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2010-Fe...

If this didn't come up for conversation at a GNOME usability hackfest surrounding Gnome 3.0 in Canonical's own home offices...when exactly is it going to come up for a nice friendly face-to-face discussion?

Not to be overly judgemental... but holy crap...what sort of commitment can Canonical really have in being a part of GNOME's development roadmap if they drop the ball on a usability discussion happening in their own offices? Seriously...this screams of bad faith..and deliberately acting in such a way to encourage GNOME and Ubuntu take different implementation paths to solve similar usability goals over the next couple of years.

-jef