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ELC: Android and the communityELC: Android and the communityPosted Apr 14, 2010 21:47 UTC (Wed) by Trelane (subscriber, #56877)In reply to: ELC: Android and the community by yanfali Parent article: ELC: Android and the community
This has also puzzled me. From what I can tell, Google's been kind of a black hole of linux folks: they go in and then they're never heard from (on a collaborative role) again. :(
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ELC: Android and the community Posted Apr 15, 2010 4:11 UTC (Thu) by leiz (subscriber, #46265) [Link]
Counter examples: Andrew Morton, Ted Tso. Plenty of Googlers are active in the Linux (and open source) community. I.e. http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2010/04/google-at-l...
ELC: Android and the community Posted Apr 15, 2010 15:42 UTC (Thu) by zooko (subscriber, #2589) [Link]
I suspect Andrew Morton and Ted T'so have unique arrangements with Google. In fact, is OSDL actually still *funding* Andrew Morton? This article -- http://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/2006080303126NWCYKN -- says that OSDL was funding him and Digeo was just providing him an office to work in so that he didn't have to work from home, and that once he joined Google "His relationship with OSDL is unchanged.".
I know a couple of Free/Open Source hackers who have disappeared into the google black hole. It makes me sad. Not only do they stop contributing patches to open source projects, they also stop blogging and otherwise just disappear from the Net.
ELC: Android and the community Posted Apr 15, 2010 16:14 UTC (Thu) by lutchann (subscriber, #8872) [Link]
Many of the people I know who work for Google disappeared from their social circles as soon as they joined the company. It seems Google is exceptionally good at getting their people to trade their personal lives for their jobs. It's sad; otherwise I would be a lot more interested in working for them.
ELC: Android and the community Posted Apr 15, 2010 17:17 UTC (Thu) by bronson (subscriber, #4806) [Link]
This would make an awesome LWN article. "Google and the Mystery of the Disappearing Open Source Hackers."
Hoping someone with a keen sense of humor could write it.
ELC: Android and the community Posted Apr 15, 2010 17:34 UTC (Thu) by cry_regarder (subscriber, #50545) [Link]
Also look at "Google and the Mystery of the Disappearing AI Researcher"
ELC: Android and the community Posted Apr 15, 2010 19:16 UTC (Thu) by cdibona (subscriber, #13739) [Link]
Which shows someone has let his journal subscriptions lapse. Similarly, we've released upwards of 17m lines of code over the last 5 years. YEs, developers ebb and flow out of open source when they work here. I don't think that matters.
also:
AKPM is a google employee and osdl isn't paying his salary anymore.
If you actually are interested in reading further, Brad Fitz wrote the following on the topic:
http://brad.livejournal.com/2409049.html
It's pretty insightful.
ELC: Android and the community Posted Apr 15, 2010 23:00 UTC (Thu) by bronson (subscriber, #4806) [Link]
Oh, this was meant in good fun. Google's been an outstanding contributor to the industry and open source. (now if we could just get the Android team to avoid source drops...)
A new section?
Front page
ELC: Android and the community Posted Apr 16, 2010 0:00 UTC (Fri) by cdibona (subscriber, #13739) [Link]
Other sections:
Antisocial Hackers (password required)
ELC: Android and the community Posted Apr 19, 2010 12:01 UTC (Mon) by lmb (subscriber, #39048) [Link]
The link to Brad's journal is indeed very interesting; thanks for that. It is not without irony to correlate his remedy for why people prefer the Google internal development environment with the discussion here - his request for making Open Source projects more accessible is exactly what people complain about with regard to Android. Foot -> mouth, I think. ;-)
Something like this Posted Apr 15, 2010 21:24 UTC (Thu) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091) [Link] The grumpy editor's guide to disappearing inside Goog
Something like this Posted Apr 17, 2010 6:29 UTC (Sat) by speedster1 (subscriber, #8143) [Link]
That was classic!
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