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Editorial deletionsEditorial deletionsPosted Apr 11, 2010 4:40 UTC (Sun) by jordanb (guest, #45668)In reply to: Editorial deletions by nix Parent article: Ubuntu switches search back to Google
Some of the most toxic people here are regulars. But they use ungoogleable pseudonyms as their usernames, which suggests that they have some shame. My thinking is that if people know that a google search will bring up their LWN rants for future employers, etc. they might think twice.
But really, I'm thinking that the potential role of the LWN comment section should be a professional discussion forum for our industry. If nothing else, using real names helps set the tone, and emphasizes the idea that isn't just another internet grandstanding platform.
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Shaping the conversation Posted Apr 16, 2010 8:31 UTC (Fri) by biged (subscriber, #50106) [Link]
Seconded: the comment stream should be a professional forum.
I notice that the comment page requests us to be polite, respectful, and informative: these are the values of the site, and comments should conform to those values.
I filled in the user survey, and hated having to note that I was considering not renewing. In fact I hope to remain a subscriber - the articles are excellent, as are the best comments - but if I have to wade through flame wars, if I can't shape what I see and if the editors can't help me, if I stop reading because it's not worth it, then at some point I'll stop paying.
Personally, I read the RSS feed, and that works well if the noise level is tolerably low. Previously I read the comments in context, but that works best if I wait for a week or ten days, which is not a good bargain.
So, two ideas, not new:
Keep the noise level down: by suitable in-band prompting, private messaging or selective defacement.
Help the subscriber to read the comment stream in context: Support a kill-file, have a per-user RSS feed to allow per-article feeds, have a per-user per-article last-read date to offer a per-user page of articles with new comments.
Shaping the conversation Posted Apr 16, 2010 9:22 UTC (Fri) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313) [Link]
are you aware of the page http://lwn.net/Comments/unread that gives you per-user lists of new comments (grouped by articles)? it sounds like it's close to one of the things you are asking for.
Shaping the conversation Posted Apr 16, 2010 9:27 UTC (Fri) by biged (subscriber, #50106) [Link]
Entirely unaware: thanks for pointing it out!
Shaping the conversation Posted Apr 19, 2010 12:41 UTC (Mon) by nye (guest, #51576) [Link]
This really needs to be easier to find - even knowing that it exists I had a hard time finding it every time until I'd memorised it. It really doesn't help that the URL is case sensitive.
Shaping the conversation Posted Apr 16, 2010 17:05 UTC (Fri) by corbet (editor, #1) [Link] FWIW, we have per-article RSS feeds now. They're in the metadata headers, so your browser should make it easy to subscribe to them.Stay tuned for other stuff...
Shaping the conversation Posted Apr 16, 2010 17:17 UTC (Fri) by biged (subscriber, #50106) [Link]
Thanks! For Chrome I needed the extension "RSS Subscription Extension (by Google)", and now I see the RSS icon for article pages.
(For the personal new-comments page, I see it's mentioned in the FAQ, which of course I hadn't read.)
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