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What's up with the Ubuntu hating?What's up with the Ubuntu hating?Posted Apr 9, 2010 10:01 UTC (Fri) by nix (subscriber, #2304)In reply to: What's up with the Ubuntu hating? by rahulsundaram Parent article: Ubuntu switches search back to Google
Ah yes, a flame saying that a tiny kernel patch was missing but not identifying it (just go through all Fedora's kernel patches looking for the likely one, shouldn't be hard, should it?), and randomly flaming Ubuntu for disabling an option which causes horrible syslog spam unless you have said patch installed. Obviously Canonical's telepathy helmet was broken that day.
(That the Ubuntu bug triagers actually *did* find the kernel patch is impressive.)
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What's up with the Ubuntu hating? Posted Apr 10, 2010 6:08 UTC (Sat) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]
Nonsense. They were clearly informed of the patch.
What's up with the Ubuntu hating? Posted Apr 10, 2010 7:47 UTC (Sat) by hppnq (guest, #14462) [Link] And decided not to apply it. In the meantime, the patch was picked up in the mainline kernel, allowing Ubuntu to integrate rtkit with PA in a way that works for them.That it worked as intended in Fedora from the beginning should not be a huge surprise because the "Audio Terrorist" (???) is the main PA developer, works for Red Hat, is the Fedora maintainer and wrote the kernel patch. Even if you have every reason to point out that Ubuntu themselves prevented a painless integration of rtkit because, for instance, they choose to include non-free kernel modules -- I don't know about that, haven't followed it closely -- it would be good to realize that wherever there is integration, some kind of conflict is inevitable. Indeed, it happens all over the place. All that makes your comment to the OP's message and your follow-up somewhat ironic, especially given your affiliation with the Fedora project. That's not marketing, that's just creating noise. FWIW, like orabidoo I am not particularly favourable of any distribution. If I appear to defend Ubuntu it is because some people feel the need to pick on it without providing correct or logical arguments; I remember doing the same for Red Hat ten years ago.
What's up with the Ubuntu hating? Posted Apr 10, 2010 17:23 UTC (Sat) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]
If non-upstream patches from a single distribution caused issues for them, they should take responsibility for it. We are not talking about one instance and one time happen stance here. So yeah, no marketing. Let's stick to the facts. Coordinating such things with upstream is a important part of distribution integration.
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